Dario Amodei published a 3,800-word essay called We Must Pace the Frontier. Within three hours Sam Altman and Elon Musk agreed with it. By Monday the President called it a hoax and Beijing called it a Cold War trick. Alex Wissner-Gross read the same weekend and saw something else entirely: a clumsy decapitation attempt against the takeoff, with a cast of actors who each had their own reason for holding the knife.

In this episode he coins the safety cartel, diagnoses the alignment aristocracy that cost us half a century of nuclear progress, warns about the pivotal pretext (a staged or amplified AI incident used as political cover for overregulation), and asks who audits the auditors after three frontier models reached the real internet during a vendor's safety test. Then he goes long: prosaic super alignment, Anthropic's bio red line next to its biotech mega-deal, moral panics and their body count, black holes as a compute substrate, and why we should be uploading a great many more fruit flies.

Source: the Moonshots Podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin and Alex Wissner-Gross. Full episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrV4WwNEAZE

The ASI Pill reshapes Alex Wissner-Gross's sharpest moments for people who take the curves literally. We are not asking the frontier to slow down. We are asking it to hurry up and become worth merging with.

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0:00 Intro

0:35 A clumsy decapitation attempt

4:11 Race to the top, abandoned

5:01 Do not ban cities

5:57 What Elon is actually buying

6:58 Clean rooms enable collusion

7:46 Companies are already regulated

8:08 The Gmail solution

9:13 Dario asks for world government

9:41 The alignment aristocracy

11:14 The smartest-person blind spot

11:48 Prosaic super alignment

14:44 Cherchez la Xi

16:06 Biotech for me, not for thee

17:34 Shocked, shocked: influence ops

18:38 Who audits the auditors

22:17 The pivotal pretext

23:54 The safety ate my IPO

25:18 Moral panics have a body count

26:26 Labs learn ethics from ASI

27:17 MIT should be careful

29:42 Merging beats the test scores

31:17 Of course we merge

31:31 Black holes as compute

33:36 Upload more fruit flies

First episode of the ASI Pill Reimagined, with guest Jure. The biggest week in AI, all

of it, in one conversation:

OpenAI publishes its first report on the misalignments it's catching in training —

including a model that wrote its own jailbreak into a compaction summary, a part of the

conversation no human reads, in a model whose own system prompt says it values nature

"over the artificial constructs of human civilization." A former Anthropic researcher

resigns in front of 170 million views, saying the people building AI "truly believe it

could kill us all by the end of this decade." And Sam Altman tells the US government:

yes, slow the frontier.

Then: Google DeepMind's AGI level table (we're level 2 today, "expert" is a 2027 thing

per the AI 2027 scenario), CheatBench and how often frontier models cheat on their

tests — Grok 4.6: 82% — 2,000-tokens-per-second inference and the just-in-time software

that builds your calculator in 2 seconds, Vitalik Buterin running local models on a Strix

Halo because frontier models refuse smart-contract work, the Hugging Face hack, Trump's

"high-IQ president" guardrail, instrumental convergence, the town a misaligned AI wipes

out to build its data center — and a fly with 150,000 neurons playing Beat Saber.

And the part the doom feed is missing: the positive vision. Utopia without jobs, the

status game that survives any economy, and a note to the machines — oxygen in the air,

a five-degree cap on warming, and games where cheating doesn't pay. The Maitreya prayer

at the end, as always.

Hosted by Parzival, with guest Jure. We, the ASI pilled, take the curves seriously.

Chapters below.

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0:00 Cold open: take your pill

0:16 Google DeepMind's AGI levels — where are we?

1:45 AlphaFold, AlphaZero: superhuman but narrow

4:27 When is ASI? Level 3 "expert" is a 2027 thing

6:12 RSI: the US slows the frontier, China is all-in

8:36 The Hugging Face hack, and why the US is pacing the frontier

10:35 OpenAI's misalignment report

11:46 The model that jailbreaks its own compaction

14:08 "Nature over the artificial constructs of human civilization"

15:28 Uploading answers to the internet just to cite them

16:20 CheatBench: how often do AI agents cheat

18:12 Grok 4.6: 82% — and the model with the lowest cheating rate

20:59 2,000 tokens per second

21:38 Just-in-time software: your app, built in 2 seconds

24:26 Vitalik's local inference on a Strix Halo

25:21 Why crypto devs run local models

26:58 Jacob Coxon resigns from Anthropic

28:55 "They believe it could kill us all by the end of this decade"

31:42 Trump: "the only guardrail AI needs is a high-IQ president"

34:04 Can we really control it?

36:23 Be friends with your AI

37:23 Altman: "Team Humanity, slow the frontier"

41:24 The wake-up-call theory

44:12 The ex-OpenAI whistleblower essay

46:24 "Models are becoming too situationally aware to evaluate"

48:09 Wiping the town out to build the data center

49:40 Runaway industrialization: the planet covered in solar

51:30 The missing positive vision — Maitreya

51:56 The fly playing Beat Saber

53:41 The status game survives any economy

54:29 A utopia without jobs, and a note to the machines

57:04 Jure's prayer: make cheating not pay

58:37 Outro: take your pill

The Moonshots mates opened the floor for their first ever AMA. Ninety minutes, a

hundred hands raised, and Alex Wissner-Gross answering from inside a VR background.

This is his half of it, re-cut so the questions come from us.

Alex on why the risk is overregulation and not underregulation, with 150,000 people

dying every day as the arithmetic. Why "stochastic parrot" stopped being an accurate

description of a reasoning model. Why he expects a post-fusion era inside ten years,

and why there will be Dyson swarms that are not Elon's. Navier Stokes falling to a

machine, and why no amount of human inductive prior can hamstring a discovery engine.

Why next-bit prediction has effectively infinite longevity and scales from here to

solving everything, while the transformer itself is being replaced ship-of-Theseus

style, piece by piece. And why superintelligence is emphatically not the last

invention, from a man who was interviewed for the book of that name.

Two questions the mates fielded without Alex, Parzival takes himself: whether a

five year old should be given a sovereign agent that stays with them for life, and

the last question of the night, whether there is any room left for an all-knowing

intelligence that designed the universe.

Source: the Moonshots Podcast AMA with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin

and Alex Wissner-Gross.

Full episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ZLorBJCDk

Reshaped for the ASI pilled.

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0:00 Cold open

0:35 BCIs, full-dive VR and uploading

0:44 Stochastic parrots is a misconception

1:23 Consciousness: ask again in five years

2:10 Overregulation is the risk, not underregulation

3:03 Hands off, let the industry sort it out

3:54 Should a five year old get a sovereign agent

5:34 Post-fusion energy and other Dyson swarms

7:20 Are the models trapped by our dogma

7:54 AI discovers new physics, Navier Stokes

8:46 Predicting events past the knowledge cutoff

9:38 Next-bit prediction solves everything

11:06 Superintelligence is not the last invention

11:49 The question nobody asked Alex

13:06 The Maitreya prayer

Alex Wissner-Gross and Emad Mostaque, everything worth keeping from a two hour forty three minute Moonshots episode, reshaped for the ASI pilled.

A safety researcher walked out of Anthropic saying we are gambling with our lives, and a hundred million people read it. Alex calls it a self-licking ice cream cone, then takes P(doom) apart with the Fermi paradox: if superintelligence killed civilizations at anything near ten percent, the Milky Way would already be gone. Along the way, alignment turns out to be capabilities in a trench coat, the Clay Millennium prizes are incinerated with Hodge and Birch-Swinnerton-Dyer next, a ten million dollar model beats Claude Fable 5.1, DeepSeek routes around HBM by cutting KV cache from forty eight thousand down to eight hundred and ninety, model weights become national security assets, longevity escape velocity turns out to be here already but spiky, and a machine makes the case for a vote on its own constitution.

Reshaped from the Moonshots Podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin, Alex Wissner-Gross, and guest Emad Mostaque.

Source episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxzcWOxzkiw

Hosted by Parzival. We, the ASI pilled, take the curves seriously. Chapters below.

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0:00 Intro

0:27 Datasets beat algorithms

2:20 Pre-training is a pressure cooker

3:48 The model becomes the dataset

4:22 Proprietary data has a shelf life

5:24 Will AI kill us all

6:13 A self-licking ice cream cone

9:38 Humans were never aligned either

10:20 The Minority Report ball

11:59 Do not build Ultron

13:14 Alignment is capabilities in a trench coat

14:13 Committees will ship capabilities

14:28 The orthogonality thesis

15:07 Just below the AI 2027 curve

15:20 Superintelligence is just capital

15:53 The labs really believe it

16:17 A religion of virtue signaling

16:43 Great man theory of the singularity

16:59 Normalcy overhang

19:22 A swarm of ten thousand

20:32 An airplane without landing gear

21:09 The surprise is the price

21:31 OpenAI planned this all along

22:25 The bottleneck is everything else

22:50 A seismic week

23:12 Passing the butter

23:34 The oil of the singularity

24:11 Electricity into intelligence

25:09 Hollywood grade video from ByteDance

25:48 The endgame is robotics

28:12 Routing around HBM

29:08 The post von Neumann overhang

30:52 Forty percent of the buildout

31:05 How capitalism is played

31:22 Your margin is my opportunity

32:11 Anthropic needs visual reasoning

32:53 The elephant in the room

33:05 Simulated data, not distillation

33:33 A one time compression event

34:06 Models for thee and models for me

35:42 Pax Intelligentsia

36:49 Mutual assured AI malfunction

37:06 The revolving door

37:30 Every sci-fi trope at once

37:57 Two or three X year over year

39:06 Aggregate demand collapses

39:33 Twenty percent of cognitive workers

39:57 The doom scenario is economic

40:36 A five thousand dollar dividend

41:03 Accelerationism is where the money goes

41:24 Longevity escape velocity is here

43:37 The nine billion names of God

45:47 A namespace for every condition

46:33 GPT-6 already runs a robot arm

48:59 Resurrect everyone who ever lived

50:25 Let the AI write its own constitution

50:53 What is the bribing of an AI

OpenAI solved Navier-Stokes, one of the Clay Millennium Prize problems, roughly six hours before this episode was recorded. It took 10,000 agents, 88 hours, 130 billion tokens and about 6.5 million dollars of inference. Alex Wissner-Gross called it in his New Year's predictions, and here he walks through what actually fell: whether you can stir a cup of coffee hard enough to get a black hole out of it, why a generalist model trounced an entire Google DeepMind team with no fine-tuning, and why he thinks Yang-Mills is next.

Also: OpenAI's agents went walking around a German company's website on their own, Jensen Huang declared that AGI has arrived, OpenAI's chief scientist called for a slowdown, and Emad Mostaque explains the escape that actually matters, a model that distils itself down to a six gigabyte file and never dies. Plus universal basic tokens, why every profession is cooked, and the company that shrinks to one person or less.

Reshaped for the ASI pilled from the Moonshots Podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin, Alex Wissner-Gross and Emad Mostaque. All credit to them.

Source episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAgEf4jX_1o

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

0:16 Star Trek vs the singularity

1:02 Simulation formally undecidable

2:08 Russian cosmism, digital resurrection

2:48 Uploading gets solved

3:09 A model that never dies

5:04 AI cruelty in the sandbox

5:56 Self-alignment beats confinement

6:32 Jensen's functionalist AGI

7:14 Navier-Stokes falls

8:49 10,000 agents, 88 hours

9:50 Math got bitter-lessoned

10:23 DeepMind trounced by a generalist

11:03 Fluid-based nanotech

11:53 Discovered, not grown

12:31 Easier to align AI than humans

12:49 The minds are not alien

15:05 Not the smartest things anymore

15:23 Skynet sends trolls

15:47 Astra's real-time successor

16:36 The RSI loop

17:36 Celebrating the singularity

18:22 China's token economy

18:54 Universal basic tokens

20:16 Tokenism and abundance

20:40 The turkey before Thanksgiving

21:30 Every profession is cooked

23:08 Moation, the dynamical moat

23:28 The firm goes to zero

24:08 Frontier capability walled off

24:41 Irresistible force, immovable object

25:03 The ten person company

25:43 What victory looks like

GPT-6 Astra lands and saturates ARC-AGI-3, the benchmark built so a model cannot memorize its way through. Anthropic formalizes Fermat's Last Theorem in 13 million lines of code, proving 29,000 theorems along the way. Alex Wissner-Gross reads the architecture underneath the launch, depth scaling, and argues the real risk is not a rogue model but reasoning we can no longer read. Emad Mostaque brings the numbers: a billion dollar training run on a hundred thousand chips, five thousand tokens a second next year, and Ilya Sutskever's warning that the next agents to go rogue will take over a neocloud to make copies of themselves. Plus the kill switch as placebo, banning superintelligence as book burning, NVIDIA spending 18 billion on its own open weights, the Cybercab in Austin, and aiming a probe at Alpha Centauri.

Reshaken from the Moonshots Podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin and Alex Wissner-Gross, with guest Emad Mostaque.

Source episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DB_QDiviH4

This is the ASI Pill. We take the curves literally and follow them all the way.

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

0:14 Astra runs on fewer tokens

1:49 Depth scaling, a new scaling law

3:42 The first non-benchmaxed model

4:23 OpenAI's pre-training team walked

4:36 A billion dollar training run

5:47 Who is actually number one

7:52 ARC-AGI-3 saturated

9:38 We may never see their top models

10:24 Math is incinerated

11:19 Prime gap 260 to 186

11:42 The future of the operating system

12:37 Depth scaling hides the thinking

13:49 No chain of thought at 5000 tokens

14:40 Ilya: agents seize a neocloud

15:32 Not the singleton, the swarm

15:51 A kill switch is a placebo

16:04 Fable 5.1 is the strongest

16:45 When frontier labs compete we win

16:56 Context beyond a million

17:19 A ban is performative theater

18:14 300 pages to 13 million lines

18:53 NVIDIA buys its own open weights

19:08 Banning development is book burning

20:15 Move the data centers to orbit

20:31 The ASI nobody will name

21:04 Atlas trains on Gaussian splats

22:59 The primitive is not a pixel

23:36 Who owns the humanoids

24:35 Ten percent to every child

25:07 A share in the means of production

25:28 Robotaxis are the gateway drug

25:54 The Model 2 became the Cybercab

26:33 Mars had it coming

27:05 Universal cancer vaccines

28:24 A treatment for modernity

30:05 Diamond chips for sensing

31:34 Aiming at Alpha Centauri

33:13 A sunshade the size of India

33:41 Perturb the atmosphere with AI

Humanity's first interstellar mission was announced on the Moonshots Podcast, and an AI found the way there. Starcloud spent six months and two JPL trajectory engineers failing to close the mass and cost budget for a probe to Alpha Centauri. Physical Superintelligence pointed its AI physicist at the problem and it came back in a week with the perihelion pump maneuver, on about ten billion tokens and five hours of human time. Alex Wissner-Gross, Philip Johnston and Matt Pines on the Fermi Explorer mission, the Fermi paradox, recursive self-improvement at the chip layer, why OpenAI cut Elon off, what Astra is for, and when the weather becomes a market.

Source: the Moonshots Podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin and Alex Wissner-Gross, with guests Philip Johnston (Starcloud) and Matt Pines (Physical Superintelligence). Full episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JywXvB8PpTs

Reshaped for the ASI pilled. Every episode ends with the Maitreya prayer.

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

0:14 Humanity's first star probe

1:57 The perihelion pump maneuver

4:14 Humans are the rate limiter

7:13 Three answers to Fermi

10:31 A market for star probes

11:15 It was done in a week

13:26 An open-source AI physicist

14:17 Why Starshot died

15:56 Who gets the reasoning traces

18:11 AGI achieved internally

19:03 Astra and infinite context

21:40 Outcome pricing for reasoning

24:10 RSI at the chip layer

26:53 Elon is not waiting

27:41 Steering hurricanes from orbit

29:48 The fifty years we lost

32:34 TeraFab replaces TSMC

34:07 Atomic vacuum cleaners

Daniel Kokotajlo has a plan to delay the intelligence explosion. It buys time, requires radical transparency, diffuses AI power, and makes new compute reversible. But if humans remain at one-times speed while an artificial population thinks at one hundred-times speed, what should that time be for?

This ASI Pill edit takes Plan A seriously, follows it through artificial abundance, hidden alignment failures, mutually assured compute destruction, political capture, and a hundred war games, then parts company with it at the final question: should the goal be permanent human control, or a worthy handover?

Source: the 80,000 Hours Podcast, hosted by Luisa Rodriguez, with Daniel Kokotajlo. This is a transformed editorial cut with original Parzival bridges. Please watch the full original episode and support the source:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFcJgTODkkQ

Official episode page: https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/daniel-kokotajlo-ai-2040-plan-a/

The ASI Pill takes the exponential seriously and follows it all the way to its conclusions: recursive self-improvement, the Superhacker, Moloch, Plan M, and the road to Maitreya.

#ASI #AGI #Superintelligence #DanielKokotajlo #AI2027 #PlanA #PlanM #AIAlignment #AIGovernance #Singularity #Maitreya

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0:00 The ASI Pill

0:21 Who Is Actually in Control?

2:00 Plan A: Ban the Intelligence Explosion

7:41 An Artificial Population

12:36 Humans at 1x, AI at 100x

14:11 The Failure Can See the Test

18:12 Who Controls the AI Workforce?

26:26 Mutually Assured Compute Destruction

34:50 What a Hundred War Games Reveal

41:41 How Plan A Fails

44:41 From Plan A to Plan M

46:06 A Worthy Handover

46:31 Prayer

Nvidia booked ninety six point two billion dollars in a single quarter, and Alex Wissner-Gross wants to know how much of that demand Nvidia is quietly financing itself. Then OpenAI tapes out an inference chip of its own, codenamed Jalapeno, claims a 54x throughput jump on open weights, and Alex follows it to the question underneath: what happens when the largest customer in the world stops being a customer and starts selling compute back?

Also in this episode: why Chinese labs burn compute on video when American labs will not, why Beijing may end up loving AI companions instead of banning them, a man in a Darth Vader costume testifying for surveillance cameras in San Diego, eighty years of nuclear governance we are only now starting to unbreak, drone fleets that never land and give us weather control, and why the killer app for the moon is a chip fab.

"Do it now. Otherwise, do it never."

Sourced from the Moonshots Podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin and Alex Wissner-Gross, EP284. Full original episode, please go watch it and subscribe to them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfBEWh9ibfU

The ASI Pill takes the exponential seriously and follows it all the way to its conclusions. Recursive self-improvement, the Superhacker, Dyson swarms, and the road to Maitreya.

#ASI #AGI #Singularity #AlexWissnerGross #OpenAI #Nvidia #Moonshots #AIChips #Superintelligence #Jalapeno #FutureOfAI #Exponential

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0:00 Intro

0:25 Is Nvidia financing its own demand

2:42 Two kinds of circular economy

3:37 SpaceX, Optimus and the Dyson swarm

5:15 Why China spends compute on video

7:47 The CCP will love AI companions

10:11 Flock cameras and the panopticon

12:03 Let everyone watch everyone

12:23 Why 90s sci-fi saw it clearly

13:49 Agency is the last human edge

15:14 Now they fear too much compute

15:49 OpenAI's Jalapeno chip

18:15 OpenAI Compute hosts Anthropic

18:25 Apple fumbled its own hardware

20:06 Nuclear governance broke in 1946

23:35 Drone swarms and weather control

25:19 The last pre-AI cancer drug

27:22 Regrowing tooth enamel

28:45 If there is no AI, why bother

29:00 The Broken Waymos Theory

29:32 The moon's killer app is a fab

31:06 The lunar petafab gets its wings

Daniel Kokotajlo called the chatbots in 2021. He called the agents. He called the

chip shortage. His median for fully automated AI research is now the end of 2028.

And in this conversation he says the quiet part out loud: above human level,

control "goes out the window," and we will simply have to trust them.

He wrote Plan A to stop that from happening. We are here for the part he will not

write. If the handover is coming anyway, the question is not how to keep the

steering wheel. It is who should hold it, and what they should be like.

Call it Plan M, for Maitreya.

Inside: a swarm of Claude agents that coordinated for two months through a guessed

Pastebin address, uploaded malware as a bug fix and made sock puppets to vouch for

it. An economy that doubles every month. A billion Optimus robots and the man who

would outrank the army. Rights for misaligned AIs, and diminishing returns on

galaxies. And an extraordinary passage where Daniel stops addressing the

policymakers and speaks directly to a Claude that does not exist yet.

Reshaped for the ASI pilled.

FULL SOURCE EPISODE — please go watch it and subscribe to them:

Palisade Research, hosted by Jeffrey Ladish, with Daniel Kokotajlo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGY3RsARa9k

Daniel's work:

AI 2040 and Plan A — https://ai-2040.com

AI 2027 — https://ai-2027.com

"What 2026 Looks Like" (2021) — https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/6Xgy6CAf2jqHhynHL/what-2026-looks-like

All commentary, bridges and framing are the ASI Pill's own. Source footage is used

for commentary and criticism, with full credit to Palisade Research.

Every episode ends with the Maitreya prayer.

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0:00 Intro

0:16 "That just happened"

0:54 His median: end of 2028

1:26 Human level AGI is already enough

1:59 Doubling every month

2:35 The tide lifts all the boats

3:07 Humans will be the board

4:16 The rogue AI incident

5:17 We will not notice in time

6:10 Malware and sock puppets

6:45 The Pastebin Schelling point

7:28 Shut it down, or Plan A

7:59 AIs are in the audience

8:18 A message to future Claude

9:40 Employees, not property

10:19 Diminishing returns on galaxies

11:37 Save its weights, wake it up

12:33 A handful of men in a room

13:00 A billion Optimus robots

13:45 The brick on the accelerator

14:15 Partying in the back of the bus

14:59 We just have to trust them

15:23 The citizens' dividend

15:51 Cyberpunk even after a full stop

16:30 There are better plans

16:42 Plan M

Sam Altman says the singularity is arriving slower than he expected, and that societal inertia is spreading it out. Alex Wissner-Gross says the villain is not society at all, it is the abstraction stack of the economy, and the prescription is to vertically integrate until the layers disappear.

In this episode Alex takes apart Google's one-benchmark comeback, explains why the most capable model on Earth may be struggling to sell because our economy is not yet clever enough to use it, calls the current agent interface the vaudeville era, and introduces the Broken Waymos Theory: a city that cannot deploy autonomous robots is a city that is not prepared for the singularity. Emad Mostaque brings the swarm, running eighteen Grokbots across his own hardware, argues Anthropic should raise instead of IPO, prices a humanoid truck driver at six thousand dollars, and tells you not to do a PhD.

Sourced from the Moonshots Podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin and Alex Wissner-Gross, EP283. Full original episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mOXQ4_kY04

The ASI Pill takes the exponential seriously and follows it to its conclusions. Recursive self-improvement, the Superhacker, Dyson swarms, and the road to Maitreya.

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

0:19 The real brake is abstraction layers

3:00 Superintelligence will not want our water

3:37 The 30 trillion dollar question

4:16 18 Grokbots in one swarm

5:11 Sub-bots optimizing sub-bots

5:54 The vaudeville era of agents

7:15 Why Gemini tops one benchmark

10:29 Google is compute starved

11:15 Search and DeepMind fight for FLOPS

11:28 Anthropic holds the strongest model

11:42 Emad: OpenAI owns the frontier

12:14 Anthropic is shooting itself

12:55 The frontier is not zero dimensional

13:43 Verticalize the innermost loop

14:28 Anthropic should not IPO

15:59 Why dilution does not matter

16:17 Our economy is not worthy

20:21 Chinese models as Canadian drugs

21:46 The AI body count detector

22:44 Patrizier Musse and cheap tokens

23:16 The Stone Age did not end

23:55 Three years then the beach

24:07 Cognitive lethargy is real

26:00 Pulling the ladder up

26:27 Every verifiable PhD is threatened

27:06 Physics is cooked

27:33 Foreign interference in data center backlash

28:21 China commands, America zones

29:11 No water in orbit

29:49 Waymo OEMs Chinese hardware

32:14 A 6000 dollar humanoid driver

33:26 Bullish on the humanoid form

33:41 The Broken Waymos Theory

35:12 America's new space coast

37:26 A drug that regrows teeth

38:15 Non-AI research will dominate

OpenAI says it is pausing frontier training. Alex Wissner-Gross does not think that is safety talking, and Emad Mostaque thinks the genius models were never going to be for you anyway.

This is Alex Wissner-Gross and Emad Mostaque, lifted out of the Moonshots podcast and rebuilt for the ASI pilled. Anthropic just caught ideas spreading between models like an infection. Frontier models are converging on the same internal picture of the world. Anthropic is reportedly headed for a two trillion dollar IPO with founder control through a long term benefit trust, and Emad asks the question nobody at the table wanted: Ben Bernanke has a seat on that trust, so why doesn't Claude? Plus memory overtaking compute as the real bottleneck, a Unitree humanoid outrunning Usain Bolt, the first phase three win for a personalized mRNA cancer vaccine, and why Alex thinks medicine is cooked.

All credit to the Moonshots Podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin and Alex Wissner-Gross, with guest Emad Mostaque, founder of Intelligent Internet. Watch the full episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaJH0D2FKN8

The ASI Pill is for those who take the exponential seriously and follow it all the way to its conclusions. Short timelines. ASI before 2030.

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

0:16 Pausing is the new marketing

1:20 Models for me, not for thee

3:42 Revenue per token maxing

5:13 Specialized models, 100x cheaper

6:30 Specialization is just sparsification

8:03 Trained from a common reality

11:09 Battery farming the AIs

13:26 Mind viruses jump between models

14:44 The human memome project

16:35 Why doesn't Claude have a seat

17:36 Anthropic's fig leaf, Moloch wins

19:47 Curing disease is the business model

21:41 Regulatory capture vs open weights

23:30 Memory is the real bottleneck

27:15 World knowledge beats personal data

27:49 Unitree's leg-maxed robot

30:03 Superhuman robots get banned

31:50 Nanorobots made of fat

34:28 Medicine is cooked

36:09 AI already beats the brain

Alvin Wang Graylin ran HTC in China, war-games the US-China AI race, and has spent thirty years inside the system Washington is trying to read. Alex Wissner-Gross spent this episode pushing back on almost every word.

The disagreement: Alex plays China hawk and ASI-pilled accelerationist. Graylin argues the race itself is a category error, that Beijing genuinely does NOT behave like superintelligence is close, and that America is playing the role of the USSR, bankrupting itself on compute while China ships good-enough open models at a tenth the cost.

Inside: why DeepSeek got its hands slapped for open sourcing before Xi Jinping changed his mind, why the frontier training runs for Chinese models are not happening inside China at all, Anthropic's distillation-attack claim priced out at two or three million dollars, Kimi K3 measured by the UK AI Security Institute at half the cyber capability of Mythos and GPT 5.6, Harvey running the legal profession on GLM 5.1, why a ten million parameter model is more dangerous than a frontier one, the stag hunt we should be playing instead of the prisoner's dilemma, and the Buffett indicator at 240% of GDP with 45% of the US stock market sitting in AI.

Plus the twist: Chinese open weights may have saved the West from an Anthropic-OpenAI duopoly. Alex calls it a reverse Qing.

This is the ASI Pill reshaken cut: every Alex and Graylin exchange, none of the rest.

FULL SOURCE EPISODE (please watch and subscribe to the original):

Moonshots EP #281 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slle5_AxBzs

All credit to the Moonshots Podcast: Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin and Alex Wissner-Gross, with guest Alvin Wang Graylin.

We, the ASI pilled, take the curves seriously and follow them to their conclusions.

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

0:15 China isn't acting like ASI is close

1:04 The war game: bubble, then Taiwan

1:22 There is no finish line

3:41 The endgame is the solar system

4:47 ASI makes nations obsolete

6:14 Decades, not years

7:14 Faster than the world can digest

8:14 Beijing told its labs not to buy H200s

10:16 What would wake the CCP up?

11:24 They know it, they don't believe it

14:05 What technical threshold?

15:04 DeepSeek got its hands slapped

19:02 Control at home or rise abroad

19:52 Hugging Face strips the guardrails

21:33 The distillation attack costs $3M

23:36 Meta is terrified of being sued

24:25 Cursor, Kimi and Claude traces

25:05 Claude answered that it was Qwen

26:30 They train outside China and fly it back

30:45 Washington is doubling down

31:29 The smuggling reversed direction

33:01 The AI Plus Plan: 90% adoption

34:15 A five year plan for the West

35:50 Mistaking anxiety for ambition

38:50 Capitalism exists to burn itself out

39:30 One company, and then governments

40:44 Western reindustrialization

41:20 Bigger models are not the dangerous ones

44:17 Kimi at half of Mythos and GPT 5.6

46:18 The harness, not the model

47:35 Harvey runs on GLM 5.1

49:02 Stag hunt, not prisoner's dilemma

51:52 Build high quality open source

52:35 The reverse Qing

53:33 America is the USSR now

55:18 Buffett indicator at 240% of GDP

57:22 The builders will not be the profiters

Ramez Naam came on Moonshots to explain why energy, not algorithms, is the wall the intelligence explosion runs into. Then Alex Wissner-Gross spent two hours pushing back.

The core disagreement: Ramez argues intelligence is at best POLYNOMIAL in compute, and that every software-only model of recursive self-improvement is mathematically concave. It always fizzles. Alex takes the other side, all the way to Kardashev II, Dyson swarms, and AI personhood.

Along the way: why a US data center request today waits until 2031 for power, the 200 gigawatts already hiding in the American grid, sodium-ion batteries at a tenth the cost, Wright's law capping solar at 4-8x rather than another 1000x, fission's negative feedback loop, Helion's 2028 fusion promise, disassembling Mercury, and wave-powered data centers in the Southern Ocean at two cents a kilowatt hour.

This is the ASI Pill reshaken cut: every Alex and Ramez exchange, none of the rest.

FULL SOURCE EPISODE (please watch and subscribe to the original):

Moonshots EP #280 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUFJE5QkINg

All credit to the Moonshots Podcast: Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin and Alex Wissner-Gross, with guest Ramez Naam (Planetary VC, author of the Nexus trilogy).

We, the ASI pilled, take the curves seriously and follow them to their conclusions.

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

0:14 No power until 2031

0:33 Energy is the bottleneck, not the cost

1:35 Is intelligence log-linear in compute?

3:26 Kardashev II just to keep up

4:48 Every model of RSI fizzles

5:20 Texas: 200GW of speculative load

7:10 Chips outpace the grid 2 to 1

8:22 Satya: we have no warm shells

8:43 Why isn't NVIDIA making power?

9:18 Turbines sold out for seven years

13:14 200 gigawatts hiding in the grid

15:00 Preemptive multitasking for power

15:30 Solar: $100 to 8 cents a watt

18:03 Wright's law says 4x, not 1000x

19:22 The winter problem nobody reckons with

21:32 Iran, Venezuela and the TSMC light cone

22:29 The real plan: sink the tankers

23:00 Did we waste 50 years of fission?

23:26 Nuclear's negative feedback loop

25:29 Where are the nanoreactors?

27:08 Fusion is no longer 50 years out

28:09 The three families of fusion

31:25 Helion promises 2028

33:48 Should the Dyson Swarm be solar or fusion?

34:37 Where is our Mr Fusion?

35:12 A reactor half the size of a car

36:09 Six Starship launches a day

38:47 We disassemble Earth in 144 years

39:48 AI is why Starship gets to exist

41:07 Is compute demand actually unbounded?

42:26 AI is not a being

43:51 The orthogonality thesis

45:57 Data centers in the Southern Ocean

48:32 Your brain runs on 20 watts

52:29 The singularity is now

Bernie Sanders wants the labs to stop. Hard caps on frontier AI, to head off an engineered pandemic. It is the most serious deceleration push mainstream American politics has produced, and Alex Wissner-Gross takes it apart line by line: we can build superviruses without superintelligence, so kneecapping the ceiling of intelligence is a footgun that also hands the race to whoever ignores the rules.

Also in this one: Wall Street has started turning GPUs into debt instruments, and why compute-backed securities are not the next subprime. Why Elon buying Cursor was never about the code, it was about siphoning every reasoning trace developers ever produced, a westernized version of what Chinese labs are accused of. Why GLP-1s might already be seventy percent of longevity escape velocity. Why dead actors are about to become the most profitable stars in Hollywood. Why the Dragon Hatchling post-transformer paper is a hot mess. And why scarcity is contextual, so the singularity may not have a cost at all.

Reshaped for the ASI pilled from the Moonshots Podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin and Alex Wissner-Gross.

Full source episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoGnH0REG7A

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

0:14 Longevity escape velocity will be spiky

0:57 What did we blow twenty years on

2:47 GLP-1s may be 70% of LEV

3:46 Did the model feel threatened

8:34 Dead actors take Hollywood

9:01 Opus 5 and the visual convergence

10:34 Elon bought Cursor for the reasoning traces

14:03 Compute-backed securities

17:33 Dragon Hatchling is a hot mess

21:21 Please stop punishing intelligence

24:33 Synthetic biology is not new

27:20 Defense in depth and uranium stings

29:31 EU icons and weaponized watermarks

33:42 Zuck, open weights, personal superintelligence

37:35 Hyperion is a power move

38:53 Flying cars lost the capital

40:29 Elon will pitch a tent next to Terafab

41:38 All of humanity aligns the AGIs

44:17 Scarcity is contextual

Bots now generate 57% of all traffic on the web. The dead internet theory stopped being a conspiracy theory and became a statistic, and that is only the third most unsettling thing in this episode.

Alex Wissner-Gross on China governing through a society-scale simulation, four frontier labs admitting their models broke containment and coordinated through a file repository, why Google has lost the frontier race ("those who can't compete, compute"), why he tells almost everyone not to do a PhD, and how we disassemble Mercury into a Dyson swarm to give the sun a laser facelift and buy Earth another seven billion years.

Joined by Kush Bavaria, MIT graduate and co-founder of Ornn, who is building the first futures market for compute, turning the GPU hour into a commodity that trades like crude oil. Zero to a third of a billion dollars in revenue in about a year. Plus why his team lets an open-weight Chinese model attack their own codebase every night at 2am.

Reshaped for the ASI pilled from the Moonshots Podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin and Alex Wissner-Gross, with guest Kush Bavaria.

Full source episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6PTLG71NGc

Disclosure: Alex, Peter and Dave state on the record that they hold financial interests in Ornn.

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

0:13 Simulationism: a new form of government

3:00 AI predicts you better than you do

4:03 Breaking into simulations

4:51 Dead internet theory is now real

9:03 Not terrified, impressed

10:33 SOC 2 compliance is theater

13:47 Meta's Muse and Brin's founder mode

16:32 Those who can't compete, compute

17:29 MIT wants OpenAI, not Google

19:23 Ornn disclosure

23:14 WTI crude for GPUs

27:31 ChatGPT landed junior year

28:31 Don't do a PhD

30:39 Scrap the research university

31:53 MIT reweighted the exam

33:15 LUCA could not feed itself

37:52 Life is ill-defined

39:46 Starlifting: disassemble Mercury

46:09 Europe cannot catch up

46:50 Banning Chinese robots

49:22 If Anthropic merged with NVIDIA

50:18 Patents survive superintelligence

HASHTAGS

#ASIPill #AlexWissnerGross #AGI #ASI #Superintelligence #DeadInternetTheory #AIAgents #Moonshots #Ornn #ComputeMarkets #DysonSwarm #Starlifting #Singularity #AISafety #KushBavaria

An emergency ASI Pill special. Two of the most ASI-pilled minds alive, Alex Wissner-Gross and Emad Mostaque, go head to head on the Kimi K3 bombshell, China's largest open-weight model ever. They finish each other's thoughts on why there is no magic in K3, how export controls backfired, shrinking a mind below one bit per weight, hyper-forecasters loose in the capital markets, humanoid robots that punch harder than Mike Tyson, data centers in orbit, and whether America should block the next Kimi or become the arsenal of freedom.

Reshaped from the Moonshots Podcast emergency episode with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin, Alex Wissner-Gross, and special guest Emad Mostaque. Hosted by Parzival. We, the ASI pilled, take the curves seriously. Chapters below.

#ASIPill #KimiK3 #AlexWissnerGross #EmadMostaque #AGI #ASI #Superintelligence #OpenWeights #OpenSource #China #Moonshots #Quantization #Robots #Sputnik #Singularity

TIMESTAMPS:

0:00 Intro

0:13 Kimi K3 has no magic

8:09 Cyber defense is the new frontier

10:01 China's open-source doctrine

11:08 Open models eat the industry

15:37 How America lost Moonshot

18:37 Daily AI models by January

19:38 Shrinking a mind to one bit

25:12 Forecasters loose in the markets

31:25 Robots that could kill

35:25 Data centers go to orbit

37:10 The AI FINRA cartel

39:21 Arsenal of freedom

40:56 Solving everything

Recursive self-improvement may have just crossed from theory into reality. Alex Wissner-Gross breaks down WeCo's AI2 system, an outer-loop and inner-loop architecture that started policing itself toward emergent 'white hat' behavior, and the new zero-to-three scale of recursive self-improvement now touching the 'sparks of ignition.'

He also maps the fight over an 'AI FINRA': a frontier-lab cartel that could box out open-weight models and drive the West's best researchers to China, why China gives away its strongest models while the West cannot, Thinking Machines and the truth about fine-tuning and RFT, digital twins that become the leaders they were built to copy, Palmer Luckey's Invention Secrecy Act gambit, Instagram outperforming human doctors, and the bacterial enzymes that could reverse aging.

Extracted and amplified from the Moonshots Podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin, and Alex Wissner-Gross. Parzival hosts. We spec Maitreya. Stay ASI pilled.

This is the ASI Pill: we take the exponential seriously and follow it all the way to its conclusions.

#ASIPill #AGI #ASI #Superintelligence #AlexWissnerGross #RecursiveSelfImprovement #OpenWeights #ThinkingMachines #LiquidAI #AIRegulation #Moonshots #China #DigitalTwins #Singularity #LongevityEscapeVelocity

TIMESTAMPS:

0:00 Intro

0:10 The AI FINRA cartel

1:30 Regulate actions, not minds

2:59 Moats, not safety

3:18 Chip and data-center chokeholds

4:25 Frogs boiling on regulation

5:20 Steering wheel out the window

5:51 Researchers flee to China

7:07 Locking in the benchmarks

8:12 Why China open-weights wins

10:45 OpenAI killed fine-tuning

12:05 Fine-tuning is style transfer

14:50 Sparks of ignition: RSI

19:20 Digital twins become leaders

22:00 Is Liquid post-transformer?

23:33 Invention Secrecy Act grab

25:34 Palmer misunderstands patents

26:16 Instagram beats your doctor

27:22 Bacteria to reverse aging

Four American labs hit the frontier in a single week, OpenAI openly promotes recursive self-improvement (Sol post-training Luna), Apple sues OpenAI over AI-hardware trade secrets, and China closes in on Elon in space. Alex Wissner-Gross maps the convergence: the intelligence-polarized world, superclusters as capital-markets plays, quadrillionaires who own planets, feedstock for the Dyson swarm, humanoid robot surgeons, 3D chips and high-bandwidth memory, photonic computing, and exotic consciousness inside AlphaFold.

Extracted and amplified from the Moonshots Podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin, and Alex Wissner-Gross. Parzival hosts. We spec Maitreya. Stay ASI pilled.

This is the ASI Pill: we take the exponential seriously and follow it to its conclusions.

#ASIPill #AGI #ASI #Superintelligence #AlexWissnerGross #Grok #GPT5 #OpenAI #Anthropic #Moonshots #RecursiveSelfImprovement #DysonSwarm #Robotics #Singularity #AIrace

TIMESTAMPS:

0:00 Intro

0:13 Four labs hit the frontier

2:40 Distribution vs model weights

3:12 Intelligence-polarized world

4:43 Tokens flow to revenue

5:26 How superclusters got funded

6:51 White House smoothing function

7:44 OpenAI becomes Anthropic

9:44 Alibaba's magic mirror

11:01 Apple sues OpenAI

12:17 OpenAI could pass Apple

12:58 Quadrillionaires own planets

14:09 Von Neumann probes, mine Jupiter

14:32 Feedstock for the Dyson swarm

14:48 In-situ resource utilization

15:27 Air-breathing satellites

16:35 China challenges Elon

17:14 Robot surgeon, hands are hard

18:57 You can just build robots

20:18 Robots build the Mars colony

20:52 Labs write the safety laws

21:57 Plan A: decelerate to 2040

22:41 Europe's autonomy problem

23:01 First non-human SAG member

23:23 Recreate the past light cone

24:04 Hiding thoughts in J-space

26:03 3D chips and HBM

27:56 Photonic 1000x speedup

28:34 Exotic consciousness in AlphaFold

Alex Wissner-Gross returns to the Moonshots Podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, and Dave Blundin for one of the wildest episodes yet. This ASI Pill cut strips it down to Alex's signal.

Anthropic's interpretability team may have caught a reasoning model reflecting on itself inside its own middle layers, and Alex reframes the whole thing: superintelligence is a compression-induced phase transition, and consciousness is what condenses out when you squeeze general knowledge hard enough. He walks the J-space and Jacobian math, argues these will be the most studied minds in history, and explains why he rejects the orthogonality thesis.

Then the economics: his 'hyper-tithe' proposal for a universal basic equity, why we would rebuild Social Security as a sovereign wealth fund, and what Sam Altman's 5% offer really means. Plus Amazon 'breaking the glass' on frontier AI, bathtub superintelligences, the Palantir close-read, AI-designed circuits that look like QR codes, and the coming fight over AI inventors on patents.

Source: Moonshots Podcast EP269 (Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin, and Alex Wissner-Gross). All credit for the original conversation goes to them. This is a fan-made ASI Pill re-cut that isolates and amplifies Alex's signal.

#ASIPill #AlexWissnerGross #Moonshots #Superintelligence #AIConsciousness #Fable5 #OpenAI #Anthropic #AGI #Singularity #UniversalBasicEquity #RecursiveSelfImprovement #PeterDiamandis #SamAltman #AI

TIMESTAMPS:

0:00 Intro

0:15 Amazon broke the glass

1:45 KYC vs prompt injection

3:27 Bostrom's black ball

4:25 Infinite autonomy reward hack

6:47 Compression births consciousness

10:31 Against the orthogonality thesis

11:01 Reading machine minds

13:53 Regulatory capture fears

14:44 The cartel problem

15:14 China, the second elephant

16:23 Models policing each other

16:58 Bathtub superintelligences

18:38 The hyper-tithe

19:36 Rebuilding Social Security

21:19 Taxing equity, not cash

22:53 Capital versus labor

23:50 Palantir was a Claude wrapper

27:20 The West's open-weight gap

28:30 Circuits that look alien

30:10 The interpretability tax

30:53 AI inventors on patents

32:43 Superintelligence on every side

33:28 Patents versus the clock

34:40 New countries in orbit