About This Episode:

Welcome to the first episode of the FourGames Podcast! In this episode John interviews the founder of FourGames and the founder of Natural Balance Foods, Jamie Combs. They swordfight, talk about the origins of FourGames, and try the timeline exercise.

Topics Discussed In This Episode:

• [0:00] - Introducing myself, what is this series?
• [2:10] - Understanding FourGames
• [8:45] - How FourGames is helpful to learn anything
• [13:40] - 🔵 Interview with Jamie begins, tells the story of FourGames
• [15:30] - 🟠 Why martial arts and fitness are so transformative to people’s four games and lives.
• [20:25] - 🟢 How FourGames can help you speak to specialists in any industry.
• [29:25] - 🟣 Thinking about your life as a relationship with everything
• [37:55] - 🟣 How to think simple, have fun and get things done.
• [41:30] - 🟢 Jamie uses literal color-tinted lenses to teach what a “lens” mental model is.
• [56:45] - 🟡 How John and Jamie think about making content and experiences that entertains and educates people
• [01:01:09] - 🟠 Jamie teaches the fundamental elements of Swordfighting
• [01:09:15] - 🟠 Jamie and John talk while they spar with the swords
• [01:11:00] - 🔴 How does music impact your mood? How does your mood change the nature of whatever activity you’re doing?
• [01:23:00] - 🟢 The FourGame punching bag and why it’s useful
• [1:32:45] - 🔵 Jamie’s story of using FourGames to run his previous company, Natural Balance Foods
• [1:39:05] - 🔵 Jamie shows how the “Timeline” technique helps you think about your life’s purpose
• [1:50:00] - 🔴🟢 How a toxic environment, the pandemic, and depressive periods helped John get his FourGame shit together.
• [1:52:40] - 🟣 Jamie talks about aging and death
• [1:55:30] - Outro!

Quotes In This Episode:

• We slice the chaos into a few dimensions and try to give them a few reps in each dimension - Jamie Combs
• You do have something to be scared of. But you don’t have to run away. You have choices. - Jamie Combs

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Resources:

• Natural Balance Foods (Buy Nakd Bars!)
• Follow Jamie on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jamiecombs
• The FourGames Core Video referenced in the intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv7mUMDfW6c

Through a four game lens, the “Game of Life” is imagined as Four interrelated “games” unfolding at once, with you at the center.

A generative tool to help you (master/play with) the art of harmonizing the many dimensions of life. 

🔴🟠🟡 Short Game is relationship with inner dynamics of mind, emotional and body. Look inward and notice your Short Game.

🟢 Mid Game is relationship with outer dynamics of environments, systems and gadgets. Look outward and notice your MidGame.

🔵Long Game is your relationship with story dynamics of roles, goals and paths. Look through time to notice your Long Game.

🟣Deep Game is relationship with symbolic dynamics of mystery, metaphor and self. Look at the whole show to notice you Deep Game

Games always on. Everyone plays.

That’s the basic 4Game Frame.

Start anywhere. Good luck.