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News Roundup: SBC, Lawson, Christian Persecution & the True Culture of Death

1h 38m | Oct 1, 2026

This week on the Conversations That Matter podcast, Jon Harris covers a wide-ranging news roundup touching on the Southern Baptist Convention, Christian persecution, the Catholic Church, the Christian Nationalism debate, Steve Lawson, and what Jon calls the “true culture of death.”

Jon begins with a personal update following a house fire in his wife’s family, along with reflections on the recent Restoring Virtue Conference and upcoming speaking engagements.

From there, he discusses Eric Erickson’s criticism of figures on the Right and the importance of clearly defining neo-Nazi ideology rather than making broad accusations. He also examines recent controversy surrounding Candace Owens, a new Vatican document on interreligious dialogue, and claims surrounding the discovery of Noah’s Ark in Turkey.

The episode then turns to the Christian Nationalism debate, including J.D. Greer’s arguments concerning church and state, religious liberty, and the role of Christianity in public life. Jon also discusses Southern Baptist figures Jason Little and Walter Strickland, including Strickland’s comments concerning Nat Turner and liberation theology.

Jon then addresses the changing Christian legal movement, Steve Lawson’s recent book concerning his adultery and disqualification from ministry, and questions from listeners.

The final portion of the podcast examines assisted suicide, declining marriage and family formation, adult toy consumption, gender distrust, juvenileization, higher education, student loans, Title IX, and policies under the Trump administration. 

Jon concludes by discussing comments from Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu concerning persecuted Christians in the Middle East and the broader decline of Christianity in the region.

Listen through to the end for Jon’s thoughts on why Christians should focus less on theoretical political battles and more on the practical challenges directly in front of them.


00:00 Personal Update: House Fire and Restoring Virtue

10:40 The News Roundup Begins

11:45 Eric Erickson and the Debate Over Neo-Nazism

22:40 Candace Owens and Online Political Commentary

29:00 The Vatican, Vatican II, and Interreligious Dialogue

38:05 The Search for Noah's Ark

42:45 J.D. Greer and Christian Nationalism

61:45 Jason Little and the Southern Baptist Convention

63:00 Walter Strickland, Liberation Theology, and Nat Turner

77:00 The Christian Legal Movement and John W. Whitehead

84:00 Steve Lawson's Confession and Return to Public Ministry

89:30 Listener Questions

94:00 Assisted Suicide and the Culture of Death

95:00 Juvenileization, Marriage, and Gender Distrust

106:00 Trump, Student Loans, and Higher Education

109:40 Title IX and Gender Transition Treatments

114:30 Christian Persecution, Trump, and Netanyahu

123:50 Final Thoughts

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