Metabolic health, remission, and real nutrition strategies: on this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake and Jen Nolan of Remission Nutrition explore what it actually takes to rebuild your health through food.

"So it's not always about, oh, I have a diagnosis and I'm doing this thing, and then I'll be in remission. But what about re-mission?" said Jen Nolan.

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake sits down with Jen Nolan, owner and director of Remission Nutrition, to explore how nutrition builds metabolic health and lays the foundation for lasting wellness and remission. Remission, Jen explains, isn't just a cancer conversation: the same principles apply to diabetes and other chronic conditions rooted in metabolic health, which is why the conversation broadens from there into practical nutrition that works for everyone.

Discover practical strategies for overcoming common barriers to healthy eating: convenience, time, and food addiction, and learn how to retrain your taste buds for real, whole foods. From intermittent fasting and ketogenic diets to simple home cooking techniques and smart shopping habits, Jen and Dr. Ron share actionable guidance for building a sustainable nutrition plan that supports metabolic health and long-term vitality.

Whether you're thinking about remission from cancer, diabetes, or another chronic condition, or simply want to eat in a way that supports your metabolic health, this conversation offers practical, food-first strategies you can start using today.

Chapters:

0:00 Intro

[1:15] Remission beyond cancer: diabetes and chronic conditions

[4:10] Barriers to healthy eating: convenience, time, and food addiction

[8:20] Home cooking techniques and smart shopping habits

[12:40] Trends, Intermittent fasting, and ketogenic diets

[17:40] Building a sustainable nutrition plan

👉 Learn more about Dr. Ron Hunninghake:

https://riordanclinic.org/staff/ron-hunninghake-md/

👉 Learn more about Jen Nolan and Remission Nutrition:

https://www.remissionnutrition.com/

👉 Learn more about becoming a co-learner at Riordan Clinic:

https://riordanclinic.org/become-a-patient/

👉 Want more structured support building metabolic health? Learn about our Metabolic Restoration Program:

https://riordanclinic.org/what-we-do/metabolic-restoration-program/

Episode links and resources:

- Learn more about Riordan Clinic: https://riordanclinic.org

- Explore integrative health services: https://riordanclinic.org/services/

- Listen/watch more Real Health Podcast episodes: http://podcast.riordanclinic.org

Topics we explore in this episode include:

metabolic health, remission, diabetes, chronic disease, food as medicine, practical strategies, terrain, individualized care, integrative medicine, orthomolecular nutrition, real health, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

#MetabolicHealth #RealHealthPodcast #FoodAsMedicine #RiordanClinic #RemissionNutrition

"The patient, the first thing I think we look at is the patient themselves, what makes that person who they are. Everybody has their own journey as to why they're here and why they developed cancer. And so trying to understand more of what that person is bringing to the table is only going to help us help them as doctors and as co-learners together." - Dr. Kirsten West

In this episode of the Riordan Roundtable, Dr. Drew Rose sits down with Naturopathic Oncologists Dr. Stacy Dunn and Dr. Kirsten West to explore integrative oncology—a holistic approach to cancer care that combines conventional treatments with complementary therapies.

The providers discuss what integrative oncology means to them, why patients are "co-learners" in their own care, and how trending wellness strategies—from fasting to repurposed medications—fit into evidence-based practice. Learn how they navigate patient autonomy while protecting against harmful decisions, and why there's no single cure for cancer.

👉 Learn more about Dr. Drew Rose:

https://riordanclinic.org/staff/drew-rose-do/

👉 Learn more about Dr. Stacy Dunn:

https://riordanclinic.org/staff/stacy-dunn-nd-lac-fabno-faborm/

👉 Learn more about Dr. Kirsten West:

https://riordanclinic.org/staff/kirsten-west-nd-lac-fabno/

👉 Learn more about becoming a co-learner at Riordan Clinic:

https://riordanclinic.org/become-a-patient/

Episode links and resources:

Learn more about Riordan Clinic: https://riordanclinic.org

Explore integrative oncology services: https://riordanclinic.org/what-we-do/integrative-oncology-at-riordan-clinic/

Listen/watch more Real Health Podcast episodes: https://podcast.riordanclinic.org/

Topics we explore in this episode include:

integrative medicine, naturopathic medicine, root-cause care, functional medicine, chronic illness, integrative oncology, cancer support, patient advocacy, wellness, lifestyle medicine, provider collaboration, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

"The idea of metabolic scoring is to take guilt out of the picture. Because this is not anyone's fault. It's basically a cosmic shift in just our whole lifestyle here in Western civilization." — Dr. Ron Hunninghake

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake and Dr. Drew Rose discuss the complexities of metabolic syndrome, its prevalence in the Western world, and the lifestyle factors contributing to it. They emphasize the importance of identifying root causes and implementing personalized health strategies to combat this growing epidemic.

👉 Learn more about Dr. Ron Hunninghake:

https://riordanclinic.org/staff/ron-hunninghake-md/

👉 Learn more about Dr. Drew Rose:

https://riordanclinic.org/staff/drew-rose-do/

👉 Learn more about becoming a co-learner at Riordan Clinic:

https://riordanclinic.org/become-a-patient/

Episode links and resources:

- Learn more about Riordan Clinic: https://riordanclinic.org

- Explore integrative health services: https://riordanclinic.org/services/

- Listen/watch more Real Health Podcast episodes: http://podcast.riordanclinic.org

Topics we explore in this episode include:

metabolic syndrome, metabolic scoring, BMI, triglycerides, HDL, LDL, body compositions, glucose monitors, whole foods, trans fat, GLP-1, food, stress, sleep, support, early detection, metabolic program, social support, individualized care, integrative medicine, real health, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

“I mean, I believe so strongly that food, what we eat, matters.” —Jen Nolan

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Michelle Niesley is joind by Jen Nolan, owner of Remission Nutrition and nutrition advisor at Riordan Clinic, to explore nutrition recomendations and the differences between what is recommended during active treatment and after treatment.

👉 Learn more about Jen Nolan and Remission Nutrition

👉 Learn more about Dr. Michelle Niesley

👉 Learn more about becoming a co-learner at Riordan Clinic

Episode links and resources

Learn more about Riordan Clinic

Explore integrative health services

Listen/watch more Real Health Podcast episodes

Topics we explore in this episode include

food as medicine, active treatment, post treatment, stress management, intermitant fasting, cancer support, survivorship, emotional resilience, integrative medicine, lifestyle medicine, healing, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

“We survive in danger, but we thrive in safety.” —Jen Nolan

The nervous system shapes how the body responds to stress, healing, and everyday life, often without us realizing it.

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Kirsten West is joined by Jen Nolan, owner of Remission Nutrition and nutrition advisor at Riordan Clinic, to explore how the nervous system influences the healing process, especially for those navigating cancer and life after treatment.

Jen shares how patterns of chronic stress, fear, and “scanxiety” can keep the body in a constant state of fight or flight. Over time, this can influence inflammation, immune function, sleep, and the body’s ability to adapt.

Dr. West walks through the physiology behind these responses, including the balance between the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems. The conversation also introduces polyvagal theory, offering a clearer picture of how the body moves between states of stress, safety, and shutdown.

You’ll hear how heart rate variability can reflect the body’s resilience and why it can be helpful to notice patterns over time. They also discuss the vagus nerve and its role in communication between the brain and body, influencing digestion, mood, and overall regulation.

The episode closes with practical ways to support the nervous system in daily life. Breathwork, movement, time in nature, and connection with others can all help signal safety and support the body’s ability to regulate.

Throughout the conversation, one idea keeps coming up. Healing involves more than addressing physical symptoms. It also includes creating a sense of safety within the body.

👉 Learn more about Jen Nolan and Remission Nutrition

👉 Learn more about Dr. Kirsten West

👉 Learn more about becoming a co-learner at Riordan Clinic

Episode links and resources

Learn more about Riordan Clinic

Explore integrative health services

Listen/watch more Real Health Podcast episodes

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics we explore in this episode include:

nervous system health, stress response, vagus nerve, polyvagal theory, heart rate variability, cancer support, survivorship, scanxiety, emotional resilience, integrative medicine, lifestyle medicine, healing, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

“Words give feelings meaning.” —Dr. Drew Rose

Mental health is often treated as something separate from physical health, even though the two are closely connected.

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Michelle Niesley sits down with Dr. Drew Rose to talk through how a whole-person approach can support mental and emotional well-being.

Dr. Drew shares how factors like nutrient levels, inflammation, and daily habits can influence mood and mental clarity. They discuss the role of lab testing in identifying potential imbalances in vitamin D, B vitamins, magnesium, and fatty acids, and how these factors work together.

Sleep is a major part of the conversation. You’ll hear why restorative sleep matters for the nervous system and how small changes in sleep habits can support better consistency over time. They also touch on circadian rhythm, light exposure, and common disruptions that affect rest.

The discussion also explores the role of therapy and the importance of having the right support system in place. Mental health care often works best as a collaborative effort, where lifestyle, nutrition, and emotional support are all part of the picture.

They also walk through practical ways to begin making changes, including spending time outdoors, moving, and creating space for rest. The focus stays on building a foundation that supports both mental and physical well-being.

For a deeper look at this topic, Dr. Drew expands on these ideas in his article:

👉 Mental Health Starts with the Whole Person

Throughout the episode, the conversation returns to a simple idea. When the body is supported, the mind often follows.

👉 Learn more about Dr. Drew Rose

👉 Learn more about Dr. Michelle Niesley

👉 Learn more about becoming a co-learner at Riordan Clinic

Episode links and resources

Learn more about Riordan Clinic

Explore integrative health services

Listen/watch more Real Health Podcast episodes

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics we explore in this episode include:

mental health, sleep, circadian rhythm, stress, nervous system health, nutrient deficiencies, vitamin D, magnesium, B vitamins, integrative medicine, lifestyle medicine, therapy, wellness, functional medicine, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

"The body wants to be well." —Dr. Kirsten West

Every person’s health story looks different. Some people arrive after a diagnosis. Others come in after years of feeling dismissed, exhausted, or stuck searching for answers.

In this first episode of the Riordan Clinic Provider Roundtable, Dr. Drew Rose is joined by Dr. Stacy Dunn and Dr. Kirsten West to discuss what led each of them to medicine, how they approach integrative care, and why individualized support matters.

They discuss the differences between conventional and integrative medicine, including the importance of looking beyond symptoms and understanding the bigger picture of a person’s health. The conversation also touches on chronic illness, oncology support, patient advocacy, and the challenges of sorting through health information online.

You’ll hear the providers share how they evaluate research, why collaboration matters in patient care, and what they hope co-learners experience when they come to Riordan Clinic.

The episode also gives listeners a first look at the Riordan Clinic Provider Roundtable series, a monthly conversation bringing providers together to discuss integrative health topics, answer common questions, and share perspectives from their work with co-learners.

👉 Learn more about Dr. Drew Rose

👉 Learn more about Dr. Stacy Dunn

👉 Learn more about Dr. Kirsten West

👉 Learn more about becoming a co-learner at Riordan Clinic

Episode links and resources

Learn more about Riordan Clinic

Explore integrative oncology services

Listen/watch more Real Health Podcast episodes

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics we explore in this episode include:

integrative medicine, naturopathic medicine, root-cause care, functional medicine, chronic illness, integrative oncology, cancer support, patient advocacy, wellness, lifestyle medicine, provider collaboration, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

“It is so important, and I think most people don’t realize that some of the cancer treatments can actually impair bone health.”—Dr. Stacy Dunn

Bone health doesn’t always get attention until something changes. For many people, especially after cancer treatment, shifts in bone density can happen quietly over time.

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Michelle Niesley sits down with Dr. Stacy Dunn to talk through what supports bone health during and after cancer care.

Dr. Dunn shares how treatments like chemotherapy and hormone therapies can influence bone density, sometimes earlier than expected. They discuss how tools like DEXA scans are used to check bone health and why they can be helpful as part of ongoing care.

The conversation also covers nutrients that play a role in bone health, including vitamin D, vitamin K2, and magnesium. Rather than focusing on one piece in isolation, they talk about how these work together and why balance matters.

Movement is another part of the picture. You’ll hear why resistance training can support bone strength and how it can be worked into everyday routines without needing a full gym setup. Starting small and staying consistent can go a long way.

They also walk through a few common areas of confusion, including medications, calcium intake, melatonin, and soy. The goal is to offer context so people can better understand their options and ask informed questions.

Throughout the episode, the focus stays on the bigger picture. Bone health connects to nutrition, movement, sleep, and overall well-being, especially during survivorship and long-term care.

👉 Learn more about Dr. Stacy Dunn

👉 Learn more about Dr. Michelle Niesley

👉 Learn more about becoming a co-learner at Riordan Clinic

Episode links and resources

Learn more about Riordan Clinic

Explore integrative oncology services

Listen/Watch more Real Health Podcast episodes

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics we explore in this episode include

bone health, osteoporosis, osteopenia, cancer survivorship, integrative oncology, vitamin D, vitamin K2, magnesium, DEXA scan, resistance training, lifestyle support, hormone therapy, melatonin, soy and health, functional medicine, integrative health, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

“Orthomolecular medicine is about giving the body what it needs to function at its best.” —Dr. Richard Z. Cheng

There are many ways to approach health. Some focus on managing symptoms. Others take a step back and look at what the body needs to stay well in the first place.

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake sits down with Dr. Richard Z. Cheng to discuss how orthomolecular medicine fits into the bigger picture.

👉 Learn more about Dr. Richard Z. Cheng

Dr. Cheng shares how his path began in conventional medicine and cancer research, including time at the National Cancer Institute, before expanding into nutrition, lifestyle, and orthomolecular care. With a background in molecular biology and decades of clinical experience, he brings both perspectives into the conversation.

They talk through what orthomolecular medicine looks like in practice. The focus is simple, supporting the body with the nutrients it needs, in the right amounts, so it can function the way it’s designed to. It’s an approach that can be used alongside conventional care, especially in more complex or long-term situations.

You’ll also hear how his work across the United States and China has shaped the way he thinks about prevention, chronic illness, and the growing interest in integrative care. More people are asking better questions about their health and looking for ways to stay ahead of it.

Dr. Cheng also serves as Editor-in-Chief of the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, where research and clinical insights are shared with a broader audience. That work continues to build awareness and provide people with access to information they might not otherwise see.

The conversation also touches on the role of environment, lifestyle, and nutrient status. When those pieces are considered together, it becomes easier to understand what may be contributing to how someone feels and what steps can support them as they move forward.

👉 Learn more about becoming a co-learner at Riordan Clinic.

Episode links and resources

Learn more about Dr. Richard Z. Cheng

Explore the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service

Learn more about Dr. Ron Hunninghake

Explore integrative services at Riordan Clinic

Learn more about HOT UBI Therapy

Listen/Watch more Real Health Podcast episodes

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics we explore in this episode include:

orthomolecular medicine, integrative health, prevention and wellness, vitamin C research, nutrient therapy, chronic disease support, environmental health, immune support, lifestyle medicine, patient-centered care, Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, Dr. Richard Z. Cheng, Dr. Ron Hunninghake, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

“We are only going to heal you as fast as your body can allow.” —Dr. Clayton Dir

Pain doesn’t always need more appointments. Sometimes it needs a different approach.

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Drew Rose sits down with Dr. Clayton Dir, Doctor of Physical Therapy and Clinical Director of Natural Wellness Physiotherapy, to talk about what’s missing in many recovery plans and how a more thoughtful, patient-centered approach can change outcomes.

👉 Learn more about Natural Wellness Physiotherapy.

Dr. Clayton shares how his path through traditional physical therapy led him to rethink the way care is delivered. After seeing patients repeat the same cycles without lasting progress, he began focusing on something simple but often overlooked—taking the time to listen and understand the full picture.

The conversation walks through how his clinic approaches care differently. Longer evaluations, one-on-one attention, and a process built around reset, restore, and reload give the body time to respond and rebuild.

You’ll hear how many cases that seem complicated at first come down to things that were never addressed—movement patterns, muscle imbalances, or habits that quietly hold people back from healing.

They also talk through the role of daily life in recovery. Sleep, nutrition, stress, and consistency all shape how the body responds. When those pieces are supported, progress tends to follow.

The episode also highlights the connection between clinics like Natural Wellness Physiotherapy and Riordan Clinic. When care is shared across providers and approached as a team effort, it creates more opportunities for people to find answers and move forward with confidence.

👉 Learn more about becoming a co-learner at Riordan Clinic.

✨ Riordan Clinic is celebrating 50 years of care at the upcoming Pearls & Purpose Gala. This evening brings together community, research, and the future of care. Reserve your seat!

Episode links and resources

Explore Natural Wellness Physiotherapy

Follow Dr. Clayton Dir on Instagram

Follow Natural Wellness Physiotherapy on Instagram

Follow Natural Wellness Physiotherapy on Facebook

Subscribe to Natural Wellness Physio on YouTube

Learn more about Dr. Drew Rose

Explore integrative services at Riordan Clinic

Learn more about HOT UBI Therapy

Listen/Watch more Real Health Podcast episodes

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics we explore in this episode include:

physical therapy, chronic pain support, root cause approach, integrative care, functional medicine, lifestyle and recovery, sleep and healing, stress and health, dry needling, manual therapy, patient-centered care, interdisciplinary healthcare, Natural Wellness Physiotherapy, Dr. Clayton Dir, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

"Medicine is a team sport. We’re going to figure this out together." —Dr. Drew Rose

A new chapter at Riordan Clinic begins with a familiar face and a shared vision for the future.

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake sits down with Dr. Drew Rose to talk through his journey into the role of Chief Medical Officer and what it means for the next 50 years of care at Riordan Clinic. As Dr. Drew steps into this position, Dr. Ron will continue to see co-learners while serving as President of Riordan Clinic and Chairman of the Board, maintaining his ongoing role in patient care and leadership.

👉 Read the full announcement.

Dr. Drew shares how his background in osteopathic medicine, conventional hospital leadership, and global medical experiences shape the way he approaches care today. From working in high-pressure hospital settings during COVID-19 to leading teams in complex environments, his path has been grounded in both clinical precision and steady leadership.

The conversation explores how integrative and conventional medicine can work together in a coordinated way. You’ll hear how Riordan Clinic brings together lab testing, clinical insight, and supportive therapies to better understand what’s happening beneath the surface for each co-learner.

They also discuss emerging areas of focus at the clinic, including metabolic health and its role in long-term wellness. Topics like inflammation, hormone balance, lifestyle patterns, and energy all connect back to how the body functions as a whole.

You’ll also hear more about HOT UBI therapy, a form of ultraviolet blood irradiation being explored as part of the clinic’s broader approach to supporting circulation and overall function.

Throughout the episode, one idea stays at the center: the co-learner model. Care at Riordan Clinic is built on partnership, where individuals are actively involved in understanding their health and making informed decisions alongside their providers.

👉 Learn more about becoming a co-learner at Riordan Clinic.

✨ Riordan Clinic is celebrating 50 years of care at the upcoming Pearls & Purpose Gala. This evening brings together community, research, and the future of care. 👉 Reserve your seat!

Episode links and resources

Explore integrative services at Riordan Clinic

Become a Riordan Clinic co-learner

Learn more about Dr. Drew Rose

Learn more about Dr. Ron Hunninghake

Listen/Watch more Real Health Podcast episodes

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics we explore in this episode include:

chief medical officer transition, integrative medicine leadership, osteopathic medicine philosophy, co-learner model, functional medicine approach, metabolic health, chronic illness support, HOT UBI therapy, ultraviolet blood irradiation, inflammation and health, hormone balance, lifestyle and wellness, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

"You can have two people with the same diagnosis and completely different plans." —Dr. Stacy Dunn

World Health Day is a reminder to step back and look at the full picture of health beyond a diagnosis.

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Michelle Niesley sits down with Dr. Stacy Dunn to talk about integrative oncology and how it’s practiced at Riordan Clinic.

If you’ve ever wondered what integrative oncology actually means, this conversation gives a clear look at how it works in a clinical setting. Integrative oncology is an approach to cancer care that works alongside conventional treatment. It uses lab testing, clinical insight, and supportive therapies to help guide care, with a focus on coordination, safety, and understanding what may be contributing to each individual case.

Dr. Dunn walks through how testing is used to guide decisions. Nutrient levels, inflammation, blood sugar regulation, immune function, and toxic burden are all considered. These results help guide where to focus next. Two people with the same diagnosis may move forward with very different plans based on what their bodies are showing.

They also talk about the foundation—nutrition, sleep, and stress—and how those patterns can affect how someone feels day to day.

You’ll hear how therapies like intravenous vitamin C are used as part of an individualized approach, along with why supplement quality and sourcing matter. The conversation also covers common questions, including how to navigate conversations with oncologists and how to sort through different options without feeling overwhelmed.

👉 Learn more about integrative oncology at Riordan Clinic

✨ Riordan Clinic is also celebrating 50 years of care at the upcoming Pearls & Purpose Gala. This evening brings together community, research, and the future of care. Reserve your seat!

Episode links and resources

Explore integrative services at Riordan Clinic

Become a Riordan Clinic co-learner

Learn more about Dr. Stacy Dunn

Learn more about Dr. Michelle Niesley

Reserve your seat at the Pearls & Purpose Gala

Watch more Real Health Podcast episodes

Episode chapters

00:00 Introduction + podcast disclaimer

00:39 Welcome to the Real Health Podcast

01:01 What is integrative oncology

02:30 Why Riordan expanded into oncology care

05:10 Looking beyond a diagnosis

08:45 Two patients, two different approaches

12:20 The role of testing and personalization

16:05 Supporting the whole person during treatment

20:10 Navigating conventional + integrative care together

24:30 Common misconceptions about integrative oncology

28:40 What patients and caregivers are really asking

33:15 A more complete picture of care

37:50 Final thoughts + what this means for patients

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics we explore in this episode include:

integrative oncology, what is integrative oncology, integrative cancer care, individualized cancer care, functional medicine approach to cancer, intravenous vitamin C, nutrition and cancer care, inflammation and cancer, immune function, blood sugar regulation, toxic burden, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

"This is a circulation upgrade." —Dr. Ron Hunninghake

Many people recovering from COVID continue to deal with fatigue, brain fog, and symptoms that don’t fully resolve. For some, standard testing comes back normal, even when they don’t feel back to baseline.

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake and Dr. Michelle Niesley discuss long COVID, microclots, and how changes in circulation are being studied in relation to ongoing symptoms.

They walk through what clinicians are seeing in practice and why long COVID can be difficult to define. Symptoms can show up in many different ways, which makes it harder to pinpoint a single cause. This has led to more attention on how blood flow and capillary function may influence how the body feels and functions over time.

Dr. Hunninghake shares emerging research around microclots and how they may affect circulation at the smallest levels of the body. Dr. Niesley connects that to what co-learners are experiencing and why some people continue to search for answers even after being told everything looks normal.

They also discuss a protocol being explored at the clinic that includes HOT UBI and intravenous vitamin C, along with how often treatments are given and what the process looks like. Early experiences are shared, along with the importance of continuing to learn through observation and data over time.

👉 Learn more about HOT UBI with IVC and how it’s being used as part of an individualized approach.

You’ll also hear how this approach fits into the broader Riordan model—looking at nutrient status, environmental factors, and the full picture of a person’s health.

If you’re navigating lingering symptoms after COVID or trying to understand what may be contributing to them, we hope this conversation offers a place to start.

👉 Learn more or request an appointment at riordanclinic.org

✨ Riordan Clinic is also celebrating 50 years of care at the upcoming Pearls & Purpose Gala. This evening brings together community, research, and the future of care.

👉 Reserve your seat at gala.riordanclinic.org

Episode links and resources

Explore integrative services at Riordan Clinic

Become a Riordan Clinic co-learner

Learn more about Dr. Ron Hunninghake

Learn more about Dr. Michelle Niesley

Reserve your seat at the Pearls & Purpose Gala

Watch more Real Health Podcast episodes

Episode chapters

00:00 Welcome to the Real Health Podcast

00:57 What long COVID can look like

02:06 Microclots and circulation

03:35 Microclots vs. larger clots

03:53 Challenges with testing

05:05 Exploring new approaches

05:23 HOT UBI and IV vitamin C

07:36 Treatment frequency

09:33 Safety and process

11:23 Side effects and observations

11:52 Looking ahead

13:25 Final thoughts

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics we explore in this episode include:

long COVID symptoms, microclots and circulation, fatigue and brain fog, integrative medicine, HOT UBI therapy, intravenous vitamin C, chronic illness patterns, functional medicine approach, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

"We’re moving from reactive care to proactive care." —Dr. Michelle Niesley

Some people feel like they’re always reacting to symptoms without really understanding what’s underneath them.

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake sits down with Dr. Michelle Niesley to discuss leadership at Riordan Clinic and what it means to move toward a more proactive approach to care.

They talk about how communication across teams shapes the experience for co-learners, and why that matters from the very first call through long-term follow-up. Dr. Niesley also shares her background in integrative oncology and research, and how that perspective helps her see where care can be more connected and more clear.

They explore what it looks like to move from a reactive model to a more proactive one—using testing, data, and patterns over time to better understand what each person may need. There’s also a conversation around newer tools, like wearable technology, and how those can help people stay more aware of what’s changing in their bodies day to day.

You’ll also hear how the co-learner model shows up in real life. People are asking more questions, looking for clarity, and wanting to be part of the process.

As Riordan Clinic looks ahead, the focus is on staying connected to the community, continuing research, and building on what’s already working to support co-learners over time.

If you’re exploring integrative medicine or looking for a more personalized way to approach your health, you can learn more or request an appointment at riordanclinic.org.

✨ Riordan Clinic is also celebrating 50 years of care at the upcoming Pearls & Purpose Gala. It’s a chance to come together, reflect on where the clinic has been, and support where it’s going. To learn more or reserve your seat, visit gala.riordanclinic.org

Many co-learners start by gathering information and asking questions before deciding what makes sense for them. Conversations like this are meant to support that process.

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Learn more about Dr. Michelle Niesley

Reserve your seat at the Pearls & Purpose Gala

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Episode chapters

00:00 Welcome to the Real Health Podcast

00:57 Leadership at Riordan Clinic

03:10 Dr. Niesley’s background and research

06:45 Transition to CEO role

10:05 Building a connected leadership team

13:20 Integrative medicine approach

16:10 From reactive to proactive care

19:05 Role of data and technology in care

21:45 Co-learner model and patient engagement

23:50 Looking ahead to the future of Riordan Clinic

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics we explore in this episode include:

integrative medicine leadership, proactive vs reactive care, personalized health approach, co-learner model, functional medicine strategy, healthcare leadership communication, patient-centered care, health data and wearable technology, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

"This is a circulation upgrade." —Dr. Thomas Levy

Many people recovering from COVID describe persistent fatigue, brain fog, or a sense that their body has not fully returned to baseline. These experiences continue to raise questions for both patients and clinicians.

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake welcomes Dr. Thomas Levy to discuss circulation, microclots, and how blood flow may influence recovery patterns.

They discuss how circulation delivers oxygen throughout the body and why changes in blood flow may be associated with symptoms such as fatigue, brain fog, and reduced energy. The discussion also explores oxidative stress and laboratory markers such as D-dimer, a blood test sometimes used to evaluate clotting activity, when clinicians review circulation patterns.

Dr. Ron and Dr. Levy also discuss microcirculation, the movement of blood through the smallest vessels in the body, and why disruptions in that system may influence how oxygen and nutrients reach tissues.

The episode also explores hematogenous oxidative therapy (HOT) and ultraviolet blood irradiation (UBI), circulation-focused approaches that involve exposing a small amount of blood to controlled oxygen and ultraviolet light before reinfusion. Intravenous vitamin C may also be included as part of this approach in integrative clinical settings.

Riordan Clinic recently began offering HOT-UBI with oxygenation and intravenous vitamin C as part of its integrative clinical services that focus on supporting circulation and cellular health.

If you are curious whether approaches like this may be relevant to your situation, you can contact Riordan Clinic or request an appointment at riordanclinic.org to begin a conversation with our team.

Many co-learners begin by gathering information and asking questions before deciding what next step makes sense for them. Conversations like this one are meant to support that process and help people better understand topics being explored in integrative clinical settings.

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Episode chapters

00:00 Welcome to the Real Health Podcast

00:56 Long COVID and persistent symptoms

03:12 Microcirculation and oxygen delivery

06:05 Microclots and blood flow

09:14 D-dimer and clotting markers

12:08 Ultraviolet blood irradiation and oxygenation

16:02 HOT-UBI therapy discussion

20:24 Circulation and chronic health patterns

24:10 Research and clinical observations

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics we explore in this episode include

long COVID discussion, microcirculation, blood flow and tissue oxygenation, oxidative stress, D-dimer and clotting markers, ultraviolet blood irradiation, hematogenous oxidative therapy, oxygenation therapy, intravenous vitamin C, integrative health education, Real Health Podcast, Riordan Clinic

"If you don’t measure, you’re guessing." —Dr. Ron Hunninghake

This episode is a recording from our February 26, 2026, Lunch & Learn at Riordan Clinic in Wichita.

Energy that rises and crashes. Mood changes that feel difficult to explain. Sleep that looks fine on paper but never feels fully restorative. Many people are told their labs are normal, yet they still feel off.

This Lunch & Learn is designed for individuals who want a clearer understanding of how hormones and metabolism influence daily vitality.

In this session, Dr. Ron Hunninghake and Dr. Drew Rose explore how thyroid patterns, adrenal signaling, insulin dynamics, and nutrient status intersect with energy, mood, and long-term wellness. They discuss why a single lab marker may not always tell the full story and how a more comprehensive review can offer additional context when evaluating metabolic patterns.

They also review stress physiology, environmental influences, and the importance of tracking trends over time rather than relying on one isolated result. The emphasis throughout the discussion is on thoughtful measurement, collaborative learning, and individualized decision-making.

Learn more about Check Your Health | March 2–13, 2026

Available at Wichita and Overland Park locations

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Welcome and event overview

01:18 Why hormones and metabolism matter

03:42 Looking beyond a single thyroid marker

06:15 Adrenal patterns and stress response

08:37 Insulin dynamics and energy regulation

10:54 Nutrient status and metabolic support

13:22 Environmental and lifestyle considerations

15:40 Measurement, monitoring, and next steps

Disclaimer

The information contained in this Lunch & Learn recording and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information shared is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by presenters or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship.

Topics we explore in this Lunch & Learn include:

hormone health education, thyroid evaluation discussion, adrenal physiology, stress response, insulin dynamics, blood sugar regulation, metabolic health, nutrient testing, laboratory measurement, sleep and energy patterns, integrative health education, Riordan Clinic, Check Your Health

"Measure, measure, measure." —Dr. Ron Hunninghake

Fatigue that lingers. Brain fog that will not clear. Sleep that never feels restorative. Many people are told their labs are within normal ranges, yet they still do not feel like themselves.

This conversation is designed for anyone looking to better understand hormone health, thyroid health, and metabolic patterns that can shape daily energy.

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake and Dr. Drew Rose explore how hormones and metabolism influence energy patterns, mood, sleep, and day-to-day vitality. They discuss why thyroid evaluation can involve more than a single TSH result and how markers such as free T3 and reverse T3 may add helpful context when reviewing metabolic patterns.

Register for Lunch & Learn: How Hormones and Metabolism Shape Your Energy, Mood, and Wellness (attend in person or watch live on YouTube)  

Learn more about Check Your Health (March 2–13)

They also talk through adrenal function, stress physiology, insulin dynamics, and the ways nutrient status can intersect with hormone balance. Dr. Ron shares historical context around hormone therapy, including where past concerns originated, and explains how careful measurement and ongoing monitoring can support individualized decisions.

Upcoming events at the Riordan Clinic

Lunch & Learn  

Thursday, February 26, 2026  

Lunch: 11:30 AM | Lecture: 12:00 PM  

Register to attend in person or watch live on YouTube

Check Your Health  

March 2–13, 2026  

Available at Wichita and Overland Park locations  

Learn more about Check Your Health

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Episode chapters  

00:00 Welcome  

00:56 Why hormones and metabolism matter  

02:22 Looking beyond TSH  

03:59 Free T3 and reverse T3 explained  

07:14 Adrenal patterns and stress  

08:43 Insulin and nutrient interplay  

10:21 Sleep and hormone balance  

11:28 Environmental influences on hormone levels  

12:51 Questions about hormone therapy  

15:28 Measurement and long-term perspective + closing reflections

Disclaimer  

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics we explore in this episode include:  

thyroid evaluation, free T3, reverse T3, adrenal physiology, stress physiology, insulin dynamics, hormone balance discussion, nutrient status, laboratory evaluation, metabolic patterns

Update (February 25, 2026): Dr. Cynthia Aks is no longer with Riordan Clinic.

“Healing involves addressing the whole person — body, mind, and lived experience.” — Dr. Cynthia Aks

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Ron Hunninghake, MD, welcomes Cynthia Aks, DO, FACOS, ABIHM, to the Riordan Clinic team. A board-certified General Surgeon and Integrative Healthcare Practitioner, Dr. Aks brings more than three decades of experience in breast health, integrative medicine, and whole-person perspectives on care.

Dr. Aks shares her professional journey from osteopathic medical training and surgical leadership to her work integrating education, lifestyle considerations, movement, and complementary modalities into oncology and survivorship conversations. She reflects on her pioneering work in breast health innovation, her belief in collaborative, patient-centered relationships, and her interest in helping individuals stay informed and engaged throughout their health journey.

Highlights include:

→ Dr. Aks’ path from surgery to integrative healthcare perspectives

→ How osteopathic philosophy informs her approach to patient care

→ Insights from decades specializing in breast disease and oncology settings

→ The role of education, lifestyle considerations, and complementary modalities in survivorship discussions

→ How ongoing connection and accountability factor into long-term health engagement

About Cynthia Aks, DO, FACOS, ABIHM

Dr. Cynthia Aks is a board-certified General Surgeon and Integrative Healthcare Practitioner at Riordan Clinic. She has specialized in breast health since 1997 and is recognized for her role in breast health innovation, including being the first surgeon in Oregon to perform cryoablation for breast cancer. Her background includes leadership of comprehensive breast centers, advanced training in integrative and complementary disciplines, and extensive experience in oncology-focused education and survivorship-oriented care conversations.

👉 Learn more about Dr. Cynthia Aks or explore care at Riordan Clinic

Read the full Riordan Clinic Welcomes Dr. Cynthia Aks article

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Welcome + introducing Dr. Cynthia Aks

01:08 Dr. Aks’ medical background and osteopathic training

03:54 Specializing in breast health and integrative medicine

06:22 Leadership in comprehensive breast centers

08:49 Innovation in breast health and cryoablation

11:47 Integrative and complementary perspectives on care

15:00 Survivorship education and long-term engagement

18:42 Holistic philosophy and whole-person considerations

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics we explore in this episode include:

osteopathic medicine, integrative healthcare, breast health, survivorship education, oncology care perspectives, patient-centered care, complementary modalities, lifestyle considerations, Riordan Clinic providers, doctor-patient relationship, preventive health

“It’s easy to think of melatonin as only a sleep supplement, but its story is much bigger.” —Dr. Ron Hunninghake

Melatonin has been in the spotlight recently after a press release raised concerns about long-term use. In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake and Dr. Stacy Dunn bring clarity to the conversation by offering a perspective grounded in research, long-standing clinical experience, and thoughtful evaluation.

Drawing on decades of integrative practice, Dr. Ron and Dr. Dunn walk through what the recent study did and didn’t demonstrate, and outline how clinicians approach natural compounds in individualized care. They discuss the broader history of melatonin research, its well-known antioxidant activity, and the practical considerations that guide its use in an oncology setting. Their discussion highlights how dosage, product quality, clinical context, and patient history shape responsible decision-making.

Their conversation reflects Riordan Clinic’s long-held commitment to education and co-learning to help individuals make sense of complex information, understand the origins of health questions, and feel equipped to move forward with clarity.

About Dr. Stacy Dunn

Dr. Stacy Dunn, ND, LAc, FABNO, FABORM, is a member of the integrative oncology team at Riordan Clinic and practices at the Overland Park, Kansas, clinic location. She brings more than 25 years of experience in integrative cancer care, women’s health, and acupuncture. Her work centers on collaboration, education, and helping individuals navigate complex health concerns with steadiness and informed guidance. 📄 Learn more about Dr. Dunn

About Dr. Ron Hunninghake

Dr. Ron Hunninghake is the Chief Medical Officer at Riordan Clinic and has shaped the organization’s educational and clinical direction since 1989. Over the course of his career, he has become a nationally recognized voice in nutrition-focused, laboratory-informed approaches to health. Dr. Ron has delivered hundreds of lectures on foundational wellness, metabolic patterns, and the deeper drivers of human functioning, earning a reputation for making complex ideas accessible and meaningful. His long-standing dedication to inquiry, clarity, and practical wisdom continues to influence practitioners and co-learners seeking a more thoughtful path to better health. 📄 Learn more about Dr. Ron

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Welcome

00:37 Why melatonin is in the news

02:05 Understanding what the recent study showed

04:22 How long-standing melatonin research informs perspective

06:58 Antioxidant activity and clinical context

09:45 Dosage, quality, and individual considerations

12:05 How clinicians evaluate natural compounds

15:00 Co-learning and clear communication in oncology care

17:40 Lifestyle patterns that support overall wellbeing

20:12 Closing reflections

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics covered in this episode

melatonin research, integrative oncology discussion, antioxidant activity, clinician perspective, supportive care considerations, oxidative stress, individualized evaluation, co-learning, health education, Riordan Clinic

“Every case represents a new pathway to better health.” —Dr. Ron Hunninghake

This episode of the Real Health Podcast looks ahead to the future of integrative care at Riordan Clinic. Dr. Drew Rose and Dr. Ron Hunninghake explore how the clinic is building on 50 years of learning, research, and co-learning to guide the next era of patient support.

Dr. Ron reflects on the turning points he has witnessed over his 34 years at the clinic, including early RECNAC research, the evolution of integrative oncology, and the clinic’s long-standing emphasis on laboratory investigation to help individuals understand their own health story. They highlight the importance of curiosity, education, metabolic health awareness, support for chronic illness, and the intentionality that have shaped Riordan Clinic from the beginning.

They also discuss the emergence of a new generation of providers and how this team will carry the clinic’s vision forward. Their conversation centers on what sustainable, whole-person care can look like in the future and how Riordan Clinic continues to evolve while remaining grounded in its core principles.

Ron Hunninghake, MD

Dr. Ron Hunninghake is the Chief Medical Officer of Riordan Clinic and has been part of the organization since 1989. Throughout his career, he has championed a patient-centered approach rooted in nutritional science, biochemical individuality, and thoughtful inquiry. Dr. Hunninghake has lectured nationally and internationally on integrative health, the importance of laboratory testing, and the role of education in long-term wellness. His work reflects Riordan Clinic’s commitment to co-learning and whole-person care. Learn more about Dr. Ron

Drew Rose, DO

Dr. Drew Rose is a physician at Riordan Clinic who brings a background in internal medicine and Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine (OMM) to his work with co-learners. His approach integrates structural assessment, lifestyle guidance, and preventive thinking to support individualized care. Dr. Drew is committed to helping individuals understand their health patterns, build resilience, and participate actively in their healing journey. His work reflects the clinic’s emphasis on partnership, education, and whole-person wellness. Learn more about Dr. Drew

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Welcome

00:57 Introducing the conversation

02:05 Highlights from 34 years at Riordan Clinic

03:02 Early RECNAC research and growing visibility

05:10 How lab testing supports individualized care

08:44 The evolution of integrative oncology

10:30 The next generation of Riordan Clinic providers

12:23 The importance of co-learning and connection

15:35 Emerging needs in metabolic and chronic illness support

17:24 Understanding the long-term impact of prolonged illness

19:15 Imagining the next 50 years of integrative health

21:56 The role of preventive and whole-person perspectives

24:04 Closing reflections

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics covered in this episode:

integrative health, co-learning, Riordan Clinic future, RECNAC research, integrative oncology, metabolic health, chronic illness, long COVID, laboratory investigation, preventive care, patient partnership, Kansas integrative medicine, Wichita health community, whole-person perspectives, root-cause inquiry, provider education