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E36. A Family Systems Frame versus a Diagnostic Frame with Kathryn and Ronda

40m | May 6, 2025

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families.

In this episode, Kathryn and Ronda talk about making the shift conceptually, and in practice, from a diagnostic frame to a family systems frame.

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