135: From Promotion Spending to Customer Investment: Part 1
18m | Nov 12, 2026In Part 1 of this two-part Retail Perch conversation, Courtney Adams joins Gary Hawkins, Kate McCormick and Shekar Raman to explore the ideas behind Gary’s article, “From Promotion Spending to Customer Investment.”
The discussion covers:
• Why personalization deserves a role in business strategy
• How marketing and merchandising silos affect promotional funding
• Why lower spending doesn’t always mean lower shopper loyalty
• How retailers evaluate personalization compared with traditional promotions
• What AI and retail media mean for expectations around measurement
Coming in Part 2: How retailers and CPGs measure success, rethink funding and put these ideas into practice.
Featuring:
Gary Hawkins — Retail Expert & Author
Kate McCormick — Director of Solution Engineering, Birdzi
Shekar Raman — CEO & Co-founder, Birdzi
Moderated by Courtney Adams, VP of Marketing, Birdzi.
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