Maya Rudolph
We're back in the Hall after a hectic week with the whole foot-wiping thing. At any rate we're thrilled to welcome Rebecca North to the show to relitigate the case for Maya Rudolph who is appearing on her last ballot. Check it out and get ready to start voting May, 6th.
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[0:41] Thank you so much, Doug Donets. It is great to be here inside the SNL Hall of Fame with you all.
Now, careful listeners of the show pointed out to me that I didn't remind you
to wipe your feet last week. It's not lost to me.
I truly thought I had solidified my stance on this matter to the extent that
it would become the norm.
But alas, if you are paying for the pay-per-view feed right right now,
you can see that I'm holding a mop.
Jeepers, creepers, peoples, wipe your damn feet.
The SNL Hall of Fame podcast is a weekly affair where each episode we take a
deep dive into the career of a former cast member, host, musical guest,
or writer and add them to the ballot for your consideration.
Once the nominees have been announced, we turn to you, the listener,
to vote vote for the most deserving and help determine who will be enshrined
for perpetuity in the hall.
And that's how we play the game.
Let's go to our friend Matthew Ardill right now, because the game that we like
to play is learning a little bit about our nominee.
And that's exactly what we're going to do.
Let me just put this mop down and okay.
Oh gosh, I'm parched. There's something going on with my voice.
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[1:59] Matthew, old man. How are you doing this week? I am good, thanks. And you?
I'm a little shaky in the voice, it seems.
Well, maybe you need some water. Let me take a sip of this water.
That's better. It is delicious. We talked about water last week.
We'll put a pin in it until next week.
We don't want to give away the farm, as it were.
Maya Rudolph, huh? Yeah. I mean, I'm really looking forward to sharing about
Maya's life. She is an incredible character.
This is interesting because this is her last kick at the can.
If she doesn't get in this time, and I believe she was hovering around 58% or
59%, so she needs almost 10% to get in, 10% more to get in.
And if she doesn't get in, she's off the ballot.
That would be a shame because she is an incredible performer and a hilarious person.
So take this as a war egg, not telling people how to vote, but just be mindful
of that folks. This is your last chance. Yeah.
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[3:16] Well, let's hear some, uh, trivia to maybe sway some people.
Yeah. Yeah, Maya Rudolph is 5'7", birthday July 27th, 1972.
She has 118 acting credits, 12 producer credits, 2 writing credits,
and 30 soundtrack credits.
She was born in Gainesville, Florida, but was raised in L.A.,
the daughter of singer Minnie Ripperton and composer Richard Rudolph.
Off her mother is the singer of the song loving you
uh which i've now three times brought up
to my wife and every every time we hear it and she goes if you're gonna tell
me maya rudolph's mom saying this one more time i'm gonna throw a saw throw
a pillow at you but yeah she did and uh in fact if you listen to the single
you can hear her singing maya maya maya maya because this is a lullaby Bye.
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[4:13] That she wrote for Maya and was used to sing her to sleep. Oh, my gosh.
Yeah. Now, and her grandfather on her father's side, Sidney J.
Rudolph, owned all of the Wendy's and Rudy's restaurants in Dade County, Florida.
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[4:29] So he was a- I know Rudy's, but Wendy's, that would be amazing.
I love Wendy's. Fast food entrepreneur. entrepreneur.
She was childhood friends with Gwyneth Paltrow, and their families were actually
very close to the point that her dad was hired by Bruce Paltrow to supervise music on his film Duets.
Music runs in her blood. Her brother is also in the music industry as an engineer.
When she was seven or eight, this is actually when she fell in love with comedy.
She saw a friend hurt themselves and start crying, so she started doing a funny
voice that made them laugh. And she thought to herself, this is much better than feeling bad.
I want to make her feel good. And that's sort of been her philosophy going forward.
She studied photography at University of Santa Cruz and formed a band called
Super Sauce with classmates before joining the band The Rentals,
which was fronted by Matt Sharp.
Matt Sharp, yeah. Yeah, they released several singles, including Seven More
Minutes, Barcelona, and My Head is in the Sun.
She toured singing. Oh, you got to say Friends of P.
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[5:40] Friends of P. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, she toured singing backup and playing Moog synthesizer.
Friends with P. Sorry. I apologize. There you go. Sorry.
Yeah. But when the band broke up, she actually decided to start pursuing comedy
and joined the Groundlings. Yeah.
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[5:59] She has been in two Oscar-nominated films and has indicated her dream reboot
would be to either remake Tootsie or play Violet or Dora Lee in a 9-to-5 reboot.
I want that 9-to-5 reboot.
Oh, that feels like low-hanging fruit. Like, in a good way.
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[6:20] How has that not been done? Exactly. This is a fall guy, for heaven's sake.
Yeah, like I said, low-hanging fruit in that it's so obviously awesome. Yeah.
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[6:29] So it's like, why would you not do that? And I can just imagine her singing
the song too, like the, we're gonna do fun. Like, it'd just be beautiful.
Yeah. So she later formed a Prince cover band called Princess with her friend
Gretchen Lieberum in 2011.
And Prince himself was a big fan. Oh my gosh.
So this shows there's no bad blood over the Prince show sketch.
Sketch um now she she first
the first time she actually met prince was on a five-hour plane
ride uh he asked if they had met before
and she thought he must have confused her with someone else but he later came
back and asked if her baby sang to her and she said yeah she makes noise all
the time prince responded maybe that's your mom the first time i saw your mom
was on the mike douglas show So I shed a tear.
So Prince was just such a beautiful human being.
There's like a connection there between the two of them. I'm speechless.
I'm speechless right now. Well, I mean, that's how Prince leaves everyone at
one point or another, you know, just does something so miraculous and wild and
awesome that you're just like, I've got no words.
No words at all. Well, we have a lot more words, though, coming your way in
a conversation between Thomas and Rebecca North.
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[7:55] This should be a good one, Matt. Yeah, looking forward to it.
So let's head down to Thomas now.
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[8:30] All right, Matt and JD, thank you so much. Yes, we are talking about somebody
who has been a very beloved cast member who has been on the ballot since season one.
So this is like one of those very special episodes of the SNL Hall of Fame where
we get to almost re-litigate or re-examine somebody's candidacy.
Somebody who I'm surprised isn't already in the SNL Hall of Fame because this
person's so beloved. So I'm excited today to chat about Maya Rudolph and joining
me a first timer here on the SNL Hall of Fame podcast.
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[9:06] Rebecca North is joining me to chat about Maya Rudolph. Rebecca, how are you doing today?
I'm good, Thomas. I'm happy to be here. This is my first time,
so I'm excited to voice my opinions about someone who I'm shocked.
It's been five seasons now and still has not made it to the Hall of Fame,
and that was groundbreaking to me.
So I'm here to vouch for Maya and kind of talk through her career and history on SNL.
So I can't wait. Yeah, we'll dig in to see why she might not be.
We'll definitely try to make another case for her Hall of Fame candidacy for
sure. And you're a great person to come on and talk with me about this.
You and I were teammates a long time ago, two years ago on the Saturday Night Network's trivia.
We did a little trivia together. So I don't know that we won.
We were going up against Bill Kenney and stuff and he dominated us.
But that's how we first came in contact.
And you've been doing stuff over at the Saturday Night Network off and on.
What have you been up to over at the S&N recently?
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[10:14] Yeah, I was actually thinking about that. That was my first episode on SNN as
a guest for trivia. And we did get annihilated.
But it was fun. I feel like very insightful. Like I learned a lot through that.
When I was signed up, I was like, Oh, it's gonna be a piece of cake.
And then no, we were up against people who have been watching for live for a
million years and rewatch it and do all that.
So that was fun. But yeah, I'm over at the SNN Saturday Night Network.
And I'm going on a lot of those roundtables recapping the episode.
And just really enjoying this season leading up to season 50 of SNL,
which is going to be a huge one.
So loving kind of the gap bridging between, like, millennials and Gen Z.
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[10:57] Specifically on the show and the writing staff.
So this has been, like, an exciting kind of transitional season for that at
least I'm viewing, where some of the guests are people that most of the viewers
have never heard of, but they're really exciting to me.
So I'm excited to get really just into SNL this season.
Yeah, it's been a really interesting season. I like hearing you on the hot take
shows and the roundtables because I think you and I often share similar sensibilities
and similar opinions with the show.
And I think your opinions are, they're mostly positive, they're fair,
but you're not like, you're not just going to say everything's great.
That's what I like. You have a discerning eye for this. So I think your voice
on the S&N and the roundtables and such, I think is a really nice perspective,
Rebecca. So I'm glad you're sharing that perspective with us today.
Yeah, thank you, Thomas. I
also know we both have a shared love for pop culture and all things there.
So it's going to be exciting to talk about someone who was on the show and is
really just pivotal in pop culture, I think.
Like, as far as some of those, not earlier, but, like, middle of SNL cast members
go, I think Maya is definitely someone we've seen, is very well known just in the world.
And people that have never even watched SNL know Maya Rudolph.
It's just a name, which is why I'm so shocked that season five,
she's still not in the Hall of Fame. I know. She pops up everywhere, too.
Like, so many shows that I watch, like, is it the –.
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[12:25] The Good Place. Yes. I didn't even expect her to pop up in The Good Place,
and she played the judge.
And my wife and I were like, oh my gosh, Maya Rudolph. We were so excited.
She just does that. She's just omnipresent in pop culture.
I was actually going to reference that when I was thinking about her before
this. It was such a small character, but had such an impact on The Good Place.
I really loved that. I'm glad you brought that one up. No, absolutely.
That's what she does. Maya just pops up, and then everybody,
we all get excited to see Maya on her screen.
She's like an electric performer. Rebecca, I'm curious about,
since you're a first-timer here on the show, you've never, you know,
haven't shared, obviously, your SNL fandom with us. So tell us about, like, your SNL fandom.
When did you start watching the show? Any particular cast members or casts in general? role?
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[13:11] So I watched the show a lot. It was very big in my household.
My parents aren't super fans, but they don't miss an episode.
They watch every Saturday night.
No matter what they would do, they would have it on TiVo. I remember growing
up and then DVR to watch it just every Saturday night.
They go to sleep after the news and watch the rest the next day.
And I think around high schools when I started to appreciate SNL, I actually,
the other said, man, big on pop culture, but I became very just interested in
politics and just learning a lot more about this world because I feel like I
would have conversations with people and actually have no clue what I was talking about.
And that was something that I was always, like, missing.
And then I actually really got into SNL because of the politics and the stances
there and seeing Tina Fey as Sarah Palin.
I suddenly knew who Sarah Palin was and knew how to give an opinion and a stance
and know that. So that's actually what really like hooked me.
I've always been a big comedy fan. Like any set come that I even do some standup
now and sketch around New York. Yeah.
I dabble. I'm not super well versed, but I started when I lived in Seattle.
It takes a lot to even dabble. I've done it once.
I did a five minute set once and I'm like, this is tough.
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[14:28] Five for your furset is a lot. So I lived in Seattle during the pandemic.
And I'm not from there, so I'm from New York. And the way that I actually got
to meet people was I took an improv class.
And through that, I don't – not an improv girl, but I met someone that was like,
I feel like you do good stand-up. You want to come with me one night?
And that's actually how I made a lot of my social life and friends there is
just going to open mics, doing open mics, working on things with people,
So that's how I got into that.
And then when I moved back to New York, the way that I met some other people
here was taking a sketch class at People's Improv Theater.
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[15:06] And through that, going to a lot of shows and open mics and just making connections with people.
So comedy has always just been at the root of things in my life.
But then really when I started like understanding it and really appreciating
the show that it was like a universal experience, but I just never sat and watched.
I think around high school time is that when my parents would record it,
even if I was doing my thing, running around like at night, every Sunday,
like even today, like I don't usually watch it live.
I watch it every single Sunday. It's part of my routine now.
I watch it like Sunday, 11 o'clock.
I wake up, I'm making breakfast and I'm watching SNL and it's basically just
been a constant in my life. And a lot of it really stemmed, weirdly enough,
from getting to know and learn and understand politics in a fun way.
Yeah. As fun as they can be these past few years anyway.
That's really interesting. Yeah, I don't often hear people say it was politics.
Even though SNL is synonymous with politics, that's a really neat way to get into the show.
I love it. And so when did you first take notice of Maya Rudolph as a performer? Was it SNL?
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[16:12] It was SNL. So Maya Rudolph and Kristen Wiig are like my two favorite cast members of all time.
And a lot of it was their interactions with each other.
And I was able to see a lot of like myself and my friends in them and the way
that they interact and the way that they bring each other onto their projects
in real life or even watching them on a talk show or red carpet or they're presenting
an award at the Emmys together.
Like the way that they interacted I also felt
the same similar with Tina Fey and Amy Poehler where I was just like
me and my girlfriend just sit and do this and
we just kind of shoot the shit and talk and
are funny and friends and I think that's what really
felt relatable to me and I think in actually some of the the sketches that I
like think so highly of Maya and a lot of them are her and Kristen are just
her being her but in like a funny way and adopting and I really I really feel
like that's what drew me in to her is I could see myself being friends with her.
I can't say that about everyone that's been on this show, but I'm like,
you're someone that I'd get coffee with and I feel like I'd have a great time.
Yeah, I can see that, definitely. It seems like she'd be easy to be friends with. For sure.
Yeah, if she was my friend, she would probably say, you know what,
Thomas, I'm disappointed. I've been on the ballot.
This is my fifth time on the ballot now, and I'm not in the Hall of Fame yet. What's the deal?
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[17:34] Yeah, you have to make it up to her to get a friendship. I know. Jeez.
I know. Sorry, Maya. So in season one, she had 47% of the vote.
Seasons two, three, and four, actually, it's been hovering around 58%.
It's been very, very steady.
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[17:50] So almost like knocking at the door, Rebecca, the candidates need 66.7% of the
vote to get in. So to about two thirds of the vote.
So she's like knocking on that door, but not quite over the hump.
So why do you think, like, do you have any theories as to why Maya hasn't got
over that hump and been voted into the hall?
Yeah. So something that stuck out to me as a reason why I love her,
but I actually could see people not is obviously we've seen her do countless
impressions on the show.
So from Beyonce to Kamala Harris to just all of these different people,
but she's still kind of maintains maya and
that and i think maybe from an impressionist point
of view you look at someone like top of mind right now is
chloe feinman and you look at chloe and she's an
impressionist whenever she puts a wig on she embodies
that person and maya the similar to if sarah
sherman does an impression i'm just relating it to this season is it's sarah
sherman still and you still have all of her quirks and all of that maya is very
that and that's actually why I like her because I'm like yeah you're not blending
completely into this person I think
there are two types of people that do impressions on SNL people J.A.J.
That just completely embodies that and you actually might not be able to tell
who is who if they're talking next to each other and people that sometimes are funnier to me is.
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[19:11] Someone that, like, their quirks and their characteristics come through.
And it's, like, Maya Rudolph as Kamala Harris.
And sometimes that's even funnier to me than an actual spot on impression.
Because if you're not going to do a perfect impression, at least let your comedy come through.
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[19:27] But that's something that I specifically like. I have dabbled in the space and
I'm not an impressionist.
I made a joke that the only impression I could do is, like, either a 60-year-old
chain smoker or, like, an old man just based on my voice.
And my stature and i'm just like
i you would see me through any impression i've done so
that is something that like shines out to me is that like
i love that and respect them when someone could do that and make it funny and
really let themselves come through that like ad bryant as well as someone that
sticks out like you're laughing at them you're not laughing at the spot on impression
so i see the flip side of maybe people being like maya is always maya no matter
what she is what what character she's playing,
what impression she's doing, it's still Maya Rudolph as that person.
It's not her embodying someone, which I respect, but I think that actually could
be one of the reasons that she hasn't gotten her way onto the ballot yet.
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[20:20] Yeah, I think that's a pretty good theory. You do bring up a good point about
impressions that I wanted to circle back to, too, because we've talked about,
on the SNL Hall of Fame, we've talked about impressions quite a bit and what
your taste in impressions is and what you look for.
And I think the way Maya's done it is preferable to me over somebody who's technically sound.
We've had a lot of impressionists on SNL who are technically great impressionists.
Some recent ones, actually, who didn't quite hit on the show.
Because I think with an impression, Rebecca, you have to have a take.
And it has to be funny. To me, you only get so much mileage out of just sounding
like the person and looking like the person. You actually have to have some comedic.
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[21:05] Value to the impression so i don't
want to bring up names because i don't you know but there's been impressionists on
the show uh in in the past who
have been who've done very sound technically great impressions but there's no
comedic take behind yeah so with maya i think we have seen we see a lot of uh
funny comedic takes does she sound 100 like beyonce it's okay like i don't know
You can kind of tell she's trying to play Beyonce,
but there's some sort of take there. Same with Donatella Versace.
She does a weird one of Scott Joplin, who's like a real person.
She did a couple of some of my favorite Maya's work.
It wasn't quite an impression. It was kind of her take on a historical figure, like a funny take.
But there's the comedic value in it. So that was a really good point,
Rebecca, about impressions and Maya and how she does impressions.
But I have a confession for you. Yeah.
I'm one of those people who has been on the fence about voting her in.
Why? Yeah. So here's my – and I'm glad you asked me in that tone because I've
asked myself in that tone. In my judgy tone?
Yeah. No, I've asked myself in that judgy tone too.
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[22:22] But I finally pinpointed it, I think.
Think so maya was on from 2000 to
2007 and i think i think
she spent much of her time on snl in the wrong era
for her skill set i think like the
early to mid 2000s i think that
catered to a lot of and there's a lot of
like lowbrow kind of humor there was a lot
and i think she was capable of so much more i think
she was very clever and but she always she didn't
always get a lot of clever sketches on i
think she was way more like her skill set was a
lot more diverse than maybe the era catered to
so i and that that's just kind of
my taste but i think that's kind of
what the era was there was a lot of like and it's
hard to describe from like about 2001 to like
2005 it was a lot of edgelord humor
it was a lot of like let's put people let's
let's dress up an athlete in a a wig and a dress let's
put our female host and get just
give her a wig and some jewelry and make her talk like a
hip-hop affectation kind of characters i don't know it's just like a it was
a weird vibe and comedy just in general around that time so i don't i think
i don't know if you could see where i'm coming from with maybe her skill set
she would have been better off in a different time of snl where she could have really shined i think.
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[23:47] I actually really agree with that. It was also a really saturated cast.
So for everyone to stand out and saturated not only by volume,
but talent and big, big personalities.
Like you see nowadays, even this season, it's a very saturated cast,
but there are a lot of people that are really strong background characters that like they shine in that.
That but I would say from her six seven years on
the show it really was a lot
of huge huge personalities comedically like kind of
fighting for that spotlight there so the edgier or the probably more lowbrow
you could get at the time I feel like the more that you shined on the show and
that's what it needed to be then and that was kind of what we were seeing comedy
at that time So I do agree with you there.
And yeah, I feel like even now, just like learning about Maya and her,
just, I feel like she's very cultured and like intelligent outside of comedy.
And that inspires a lot of it, like her Prince tribute band.
And going through that, she has a lot of niche interests and quirks that I feel
like if she was on a different season, even like on current season,
the writing cast was different and they would really let it shine.
And kind of write things around someone that would understand.
I think about Bo and Yang doing the Troye Sivan sketch.
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[25:08] Did it relate to everyone? No. But was it funny because it was someone doing
something they were passionate about and understood and got?
I feel like if Maya was on a more recent season, I would say probably from like
2015 till now, the writers would tailor things to her and she wouldn't just
have to fit in and be the funny character in what she was doing.
And you have her and Kristen Wiig as, like, a dynamic duo throughout the seasons
together, and they are so different, and their humor is so different.
And I feel like although their partnership was something that we've seen from
the show on and through that, I feel like it was more for Kristen to shine than
it allowed for Maya to shine.
And I think that is probably the reason she isn't in this Hall of Fame.
But as you look back like taking a deeper eye to this and the reason why I'm
so excited to talk about her is like she was just stunning.
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[26:02] Standard and reliable like you knew she was
going to say something or sing something and we were going to
laugh whether she was the star of it and whether
it was even her like area to
shine comedically she always did trigger a lot from the audience so although
i you don't want to like pit women against each other but i kind of feel like
the writers then had to pick the star and kristin definitely got that spotlight
and maya was more of a supporting role when i actually feel I feel like they
could have balanced that a little different.
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[26:32] Yeah, that's something that you just articulated that I think I've always felt,
but I never really articulated it to myself, is that dynamic with her and Kristen
and maybe a little bit Amy. I think she and Amy were actually really good.
Of course, they did Bronx Beat together and stuff, but I think they actually
had a really good partnership.
I really I wish that Maya she
ended in on SNL in 2007
I wish she could have had a few more years because I
think that that cast was just finding its groove
around 2007 so I would wish Maya
could have been a part of them really hitting the
peak like she could I wish she could have done more stuff with Sudeikis
and Hader and even develop more of
a partnership with Kristen so I think she was in a weird era
and she was part of when the show kind of
flipped and got another golden era but
i wish she could have been part more of a
more of that golden era than she was
if that makes sense yeah that that actually is a
really good point like as they transitioned over she was one of the cast members
that transitioned with them but didn't get to see it through fruition the way
that like she probably should have after the year she put into it like yeah
and if she was able to stick around and actually like help with the transition
and do that and move that over.
So that's an awesome point because I feel like the show really flips.
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[27:56] Each big era from like, is who dominates it?
Especially I think like gender is a big thing. Like, is it being carried by
like Andy Samberg, Jason Sudeikis, Bill Hader, that?
That was a very male heavy, like leading a lot of the sketches.
And then you go to Kate McKinnon, Cecily and 80. And that was very,
very female dominating.
And I kind of wished even just as a general statement throughout the years,
there was better balance and you would see more
dynamic duos from like the
women and the men on the cast and i think that's actually something
that snl has really never quite nailed down since the early early seasons um
like really from the not ready for primetime players that i think had the best
balance between everyone had a role but since the cast are so saturated now
it's easier to make a a more bro-y sketch or a more, like,
female-oriented sketch.
And that's just natural and due to the nature. But I kind of feel like that's
what we're missing now is that sweet spot.
You look at all the duos or trios or groups of people from 2000 on.
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[29:01] And there's never really, like, a male-female dynamic duo leading that.
And I actually think, like, Maya and Fred could have done that.
And we see in real life that they kind of are that dynamic duo.
And we've seen that really come to terms after
the show and all of that but I think that's like an area
that we've been missing for a while is like having someone
just really dominant that way and I think that would just make maybe every sketch
more reliable to this so I talked to John about sketches that he all-time favorite
thinks is the funniest things with like Andrew Dismukes and I'm like yeah I
laughed it wasn't like necessarily my thing or like little things things like that.
And that's, I guess, reaching all the different people in the audience.
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[29:46] But kind of looking for that sweet spot.
And I feel like she could have been a really good bridge between that.
She really could have. That's such a good point. And I was thinking of Fred
too, with Amaya and Fred, they could have had such a, they could have built
on like a dynamic because Fred stayed until what, 2012, something like that.
So, so they could have had a few more years together. Yeah. See great points, Rebecca.
See, Maya is overdue in the Arsenal Hall of Fame and
you were overdue to appear on this podcast i'm already
meant to be yeah it was meant to be then but i'm
here i'm here to vouch for her and then hopefully vouch for a return
on this podcast i think you've already sealed a return 20 minutes
in wow so as far as
maya's work on snl what what kind of immediately stands out to you like you
we can we can kind of just talk about it like a specific character or sketch
right now well you did mention bronx beat and that is the number one When I
look back at my 10 favorite sketches of all time,
I think Bronx Beat is really just up there in that list.
Initially, I'm like, okay, Maya's on this show. Who are we talking about? Bronx Beat is that.
So, your book, you like to ride bikes. Yes, I traveled all over the country
and found the best trails and rated them according to difficulty and size and, uh... Uh-huh.
You know how many times I had sex last year, Frankie?
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[31:11] 0.002. And it was my choice. This area down here, this area,
it's got the Ghostbusters thing over it.
No one's allowed in there. No trespassing. No trespassing. Clothes for business.
You know that red circle thing with the line, the Ghostbusters thing?
Yeah. It's my choice. You know what? When my husband wants to get sex... It's always funny.
No matter when I watch it, no matter what mood I'm in, it is just always one that gets me laughing.
And I think that was a good point you made about Amy and Maya's chemistry.
Like, they have such a funny, like, chemistry in this. And their dialects, it's just a dumb sketch.
But it really just always hits. Sometimes you just get those where you're like, this is amazing.
And that was pure gold. So that definitely stands out to me.
It's a dumb sketch, but it's not.
It's not a dumb sketch because they have these mannerisms. So now you're from
New York, you said, right? Yes.
Have you met these ladies before? Yes.
So I'm from Long Island. So it's a little different, but there's like,
there's a similarity between Bronx and certain parts of Long Island.
And I think especially like older generations, like the accents are real.
Like people actually sound like that.
And I think that was around, like, an era with Jersey Shore was also,
like, how are these people real?
But they are. And the people of Bronx Beat, those people exist.
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[32:34] And it's awesome to see. And it was, like, a really great depiction.
And they really just took those characters to 110%. And they were relatable.
Like, I was able to be like, oh, that's who that is.
That's someone from New York. And it was awesome. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that sketch was so musical, too.
Like, when Amy talking and then Maya talking, like, the way they bantered back
and forth, it was very musical.
It was, like, just something about it. Like, you had to be an amazing performer
to get those beats down. Like, it was...
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[33:07] I remember the Jake Gyllenhaal one, the one that they were kind of flirting
with, with like, they kind of flirted with their guests and stuff,
but just like their, the way they would bounce back and forth.
She and Amy, there was just, just real like music to it.
That's whenever I watch those sketches, that's all my mind goes to is just as
a performer, she was just so good about hitting those exact beats is very conversational,
uh, and very relatable. I'm from New Mexico.
I've been to New York, but you know, I'm not like a guy, uh,
But it was still like I felt like I knew those ladies.
Yeah, for sure. Like they definitely exist. And I feel like some people got
it and they were like, I could relate this.
But other people that have never met anyone like that still were able to relate
and be like, I saw this person on TV.
And it was an awesome depiction.
So that's like the number one sketch that really stands out to me.
Yeah, and I don't think it's a coincidence, too, that they started doing these
later in Maya's tenure there on SNL.
When the cast and the show as a whole was starting to flip into another golden
era, and we saw something like Bronx Beat, which she and Amy came up with.
So I don't think that's necessarily a coincidence that these started happening a little later.
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[34:23] One that I revisited today that was just like pure Maya just owning it was that National Anthem.
Yeah was that was that like one of the next ones that that was in my i that
i was deciding which one i was going to bring up next it was either that or
the one i'll get to then after but i love that i mean one of my like happy videos
is watching fergie sing the national anthem.
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[34:45] And I could do every single quip.
And that's, I think, kind of what it was Lucy based off of was Fergie for the
Basketball Hall of Fame sang the national anthem and took a lot of creative
liberty in a way that did not pay off.
But I'm sure it's probably one of the most watched national anthems of any sports event ever.
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[35:09] And Maya so perfectly encapsulated that.
But also, she's a super talented singer. So I think that was part of it.
But Fergie at this national anthem just like, went off and did all these ad
libs and runs that were so funny.
And to see SNL do that in a way that wasn't an exact copy and had Maya like
fully just shine and go off on that.
And like, that is quintessential Maya. Like when I'm imagining her in my head,
she is just singing and doing something funny vocally and through singing.
And I think that this sketch still holds up now because there's always it's always relatable.
Like there was a super viral video this month of this little girl that sang
the National Anthem again so horribly, like at one of these games.
And I was like watching this one again yesterday.
And I was like, oh, it's like this little girl now. But you could have watched
it two years ago and related it to another just bad national anthem performance.
Yeah, as long as people are singing the national anthem, they're going to be
singing it poorly because it's a hard song to sing.
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[36:15] Exactly. And I don't know why people keep doing that. Like, just sing the song as it was written.
Like, it's very rarely paid off for people to just make it their own.
And we're seeing that. I think this is just a relatable sketch,
whether it was 20 years ago or today. because you can always relate it to something going on.
Through the night,
for it's warm to me.
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[37:08] I feel like they told Maya, maybe on that Monday, whoever, maybe it was her
that came up with the idea, but I feel like they just kind of told Maya,
like, we need you to do a national anthem and kind of butcher it.
Sing well, but just, like, butcher it.
And Maya's like, I got you. And she came up with that.
It was just so, like, her facial expressions were perfect.
I think she added in, she started singing Take Me Out to the Ball Game or something at some point.
Yeah yeah that was so perfect that's like
quintessential mom glad i revisited it again today because that
you're right that is quintessential uh maya in in
that performance yeah uh what else is quintessential maya she's so fun she's
so fun the other one that i think like she shines out of a bigger cast is super
showcase spokesmodels this in my mind is just Kristen and Maya doing their thing.
It's a spoof of The Price is Right and it's showing contestants what they would have won.
So it's Kristen and Maya as the Vanillites walking around. I know that's.
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[38:15] Um walking around and being like the
spokesperson and you just watch like Kristen and
Bill Hader just lose it and it just shows like
Maya was probably someone that was so fun to have on set
and someone that you look at and you're like yes I'm in this sketch with them
and she made them break just by being her and standing out so much out of like
the crowd of this sketch that it cracks me up like I'm a sucker for people that
break in a sketch especially when it's like actually funny Yeah,
when it's not like forced.
Not like an inside joke type of thing. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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[39:20] Was her voice kind of similar to like, remember that art dealers one that she and Fred did?
This almost looks like the similar, like it's almost like a similar voice, right? Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, Maya was... Yeah, just, we don't know what the rules of the game are still.
Right. Like, what would a right answer be?
And she just did such a good job here.
Yeah, she, of course, Bill is known to break. But for good reason when you're
working with somebody like Maya, honestly.
I don't know how Vanessa Bear kept it together in that sketch.
She's probably new and maybe afraid of getting fired.
So she didn't want a break in that sketch.
Yeah, that was so good.
There was one, and I don't know if you remember these or when it got a chance to go rewatch.
They're hard to find. You got to know where to look. But she did one that I alluded to earlier.
And it's an example to me of something very clever that Maya was able to do
early on. Like these appeared in 2002 and 2003.
It was Tennis Talk with time traveling Scott Joplin.
Let's start with you, 92 Andre Agassi. What's new with you? Oh,
well, things are pretty great.
I just won Wimbledon. I'm dating Brooke Shields.
And I'm doing these pretty awesome commercials for Canon cameras.
That's great. By the way, Patrick Swayze called. He wants his hair back.
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[40:46] How about you, present-day Andre Agassi? What's going on with you?
I'm really excited. I just had a second baby with my wife.
So if you haven't seen and if you don't do you remember these rebecca vaguely
okay so i'll yes i'll recap so scott
joplin is a real person he was a composer he
basically is called like the godfather of ragtime
kind of music and so the premise
was that maya played scott joplin
who traveled who who was
a time traveler who became a time traveler and
through his time traveling experiences
he figured out that he really enjoyed tennis so he created
a talk show time travel and tennis talk with time
travel and Scott Joplin so he would like have these
have these tennis players on and pretty much like be passive-aggressive and
make these quips but then like after after like burns would go back and play
like ragtime diddy and then come back and like like talk to him and be condescending
and be funny at this and it was Maya like dressed up in a suit.
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[41:51] And short hair and and it was just
such a bizarre to me very clever
very like where did this come from and especially
for that time in 2002 and 2003 it
really like stood out yeah amongst people
but that's an example to me like i thought of of her being able
to play in like more just kind of
subtle weird kind of things rather
than over the top things so that that's when if you
if if you hadn't seen that in a while if listeners you hadn't seen
that in a while it's around season 28 and 29 tennis talk with time travel and
scott joblin and then rebecca like i think that one yeah yeah go check that
but i think rebecca like she she's versatile that's the versatility that i was
talking about with maya yeah the other thing that i've noticed i know we spoke about.
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[42:41] Impressions and we kind of touched on that earlier on but maya
comes from a unique background ground obviously we love that
she is a very successful nepo baby uh mini
ripperton's her mom and she's black and jewish
and i think she was on the cast at a time to be kind
of she was a black woman representative so for
a lot of the impressions we saw they weren't spot on but
within being that character and playing characters that most of the rest of
the cast couldn't play uh like at the time she took these roles and didn't just
say okay i'll just do an impression She like completely dramatized their characterization to a T and to 100%.
And I think she took her background of being both black and Jewish,
like in Bronx Beat, the people that related to me, I'm like,
oh, those are Jewish people from Long Island that I know.
Although it's not technically that from the Bronx, she always let herself shine.
So a few of her impressions are just like when I looked back and really,
really standing out to me is not like, wow, you are Oprah, but you are making me hysterically laugh.
So that specific one is just Oprah's favorite things I have down.
And then also the Maya Angelou, I Know Why the Caged Birds Laugh as a show.
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[43:57] Hello, child. I am the rock.
I am the river. I am the one who put a pie under the butt of Morgan Freeman. Whoa!
Watch as Maya Angelou pranks her esteemed colleagues.
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[44:15] Look out! It appears I have sat in a pie. I suppose you have.
I feel no shame sitting in that pastry. Just human nature, I suppose.
Yes. It has been an honor.
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[44:32] So she really took these and made them her own and was like,
OK, if you want me to do this, I'm still going to be Maya in this because I
can't do a spot on Maya Angelou impression.
So I'm going to make it a show instead of just like an interview with Maya Angelou.
So I think that's where she really got to shine in a lot of those times.
At the time, I know we were saying before she was never specifically written
for like as much as I think she deserved to be. But in a lot of her impressions,
I think, is where the writers really had fun with her.
And she created characters even out of real people who I wanted to imitate as
well. You said you don't do impressions.
I sure as hell don't do impressions. But with something like her Whitney Houston,
I find myself almost mimicking.
He and my sister-in-law, sometimes we'll get to talking about SNL,
and she'll always be like, I'll always go back to Maya Rudolph's Whitney Houston.
Bobby Brown, Bobby Brown.
We'll just kind of sit there and say Bobby Brown to each other.
Eric is a real Geico customer, not a paid celebrity. So to help him tell his
story, we paired him with Whitney Houston.
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[45:46] I thought I was going to have to postpone my exams. That's when I got in my
SUV, threw that sucker in reverse, and drove backwards all the way to Dionne Warwick's house.
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[45:59] Geico took care of everything immediately, and I passed sociology.
I passed Bobby Brown the other day, and I threw an old bag of chicken McNuggets
at his head. Ain't it shocking what love can do?
Ain't it shocking what love can do?
Geico. Real wrecks. Cars. She has that kind of energy and creates these characters that even...
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[46:22] Fans like we want to like imitate and we want to like act like that because
she radiates like that energy on screen maya does exactly and that's why i think
bringing her back as kamala harris was.
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[46:36] Such a specific choice that i
think snl took they could have had someone come
back or at they were that was actually at a time where they
were just bringing people in left and right um to
play people that weren't specifically in the cast and they
chose Maya and she did such a unique
take on Kamala that I think was more successful
than someone that was like uncanny like I mean
you look at Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton with Amy
and Tina and although they were really funny they were really spot-on impressions
where they've had the characters in the room together but But Maya took Kamala
and made it why people like to laugh with her and at her and go through all
of those phases where I thought it was like a genius pick,
but it was actually interesting because they were bringing back a lot of people while Alec Baldwin,
I don't think, was the funniest Donald Trump. He was super, super spot on.
But they made such a specific choice by having Maya come back and be Kamala
with not a spot on impression, but added a lot of light.
Maybe she wasn't as like serious as having like Biden or Trump and someone that
like we actually want to convey like This is our political take and the stance in this sketch,
but just having Kamala's like, oh, you know You're gonna say one or two lines
in this that'll make me laugh,
Harris you see this is what they do.
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[47:58] Susan they avoid taking any,
Responsibility not mr. Vice President. I'm speaking.
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[48:11] Well, I'm just trying to. But I'm speaking. Yes, but I. Yeah, but I'm speaking.
See, I'm speaking right now. Estoya, Blondo, Nevada, Arizona,
some parts of Texas. I'm speaking. I understand that.
I understand. Yeah, I don't think you do. I do. Because you're talking and I'm speaking.
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[48:29] I love that choice to bring her back. And I think having a previous cast member
come back for a recurring, like, hold open bit And then pop up in a lot of the
sketches that we've seen throughout those seasons where she was back.
That's that's enough to put her in the Hall of Fame for me. Yeah.
Yeah. That's so. So you do look at times that they appeared outside of their
time, like as an official cast member.
Like you do take that into account when you're looking at cast members.
For sure. And also impact after the show, I think is it that's what I do,
because it's not like the SNL Hall of Fame in my mind is, oh,
you were on SNL and you came from this and it was all encompassing.
Like, what did you do on the show? What did you do with your platform after the show?
And a lot of people don't utilize that platform after the show, as well as others.
And I think Maya is someone that really took that by storm and completely is
just now kind of killing it and consistently killing it since her time on SNL,
back on the show as host, as recurring characters and that.
And I take that all into consideration. But just besides her specific years
on the show, it's like you have one of the biggest comedy platforms in the whole world.
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[49:44] Are you going to actually make use of what you had on here?
And I say without doubt she definitely did
and I mean just to bring up the I mean
the number one thing everyone's probably thinking of of her time outside the
show is bridesmaids like she made a
legendary movie like that is
one that goes down in the books when you look back
at history you're like oh that is just an all-time
funny movie it's the same way great yeah yeah
Will Ferrell had all of these movies as well
after obviously maya doesn't have as much
i'd say on her repertoire there but you look
back and that's one of the all-time great comedic movies
of all time that i'm like you were on this you brought your friends into this
cast you brought kristin into this and like it all worked so well together that
it i related to snl because it's a maya and kristin movie that was so funny
and so amazing that i'm like how could she not be in the hall Hall of Fame.
The amount of times I watch Bridesmaids a year, just when I'm sitting with people
and we're like, what movie should we put on? Bridesmaids. It's a classic.
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[50:49] Yeah. No, that's a perfect one to put on when you have nothing else to go to.
No, it's an all-time great comedy.
And I'm starting to warm up to the idea more of thinking about cast members
and their impact even outside of their technical, when they were a cast member on the show.
I think you bring up good points. And I think that's perfectly valid to
look at cast members that way and kamala harris is a
great example and with maya you almost have to like take into
cameos into account because she's been back
on the show so much and she played kamala
like there was and we were talking about impressions like she found a an angle
for her kamala harris they even told us what that angle was like the cool aunt
right like she played kamala harris said i'm the cool aunt or whatever and i'm
gonna play it like that so she was like like the fun aunt who might've like rapped a little bit,
but then they still made fun of her for saying like, that little girl was me,
like this kind of poking fun at, at Kamala at the same time.
So she did find an angle. She has had an impact on the show.
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[51:55] 2024 now and i and and none
of us would be shocked if we saw maya rudolph
uh come on the show in some capacity i know punky johnson they had her play
kamala she didn't she didn't get any speaking roles um when she played kamala
but i don't know if they're what their plans are with that but we won't be surprised
if maya's like comes back to the show at any point and has yeah,
you're right uh yeah as we're recording this yeah yeah as we're recording this
Kristen scheduled to host, I think, on April 6th.
Yes. Something like that. Interesting.
And I would not be shocked at all if she made an appearance there.
I actually have a question for you, Thomas. Okay. So I know how to angle to all the listeners here.
Has anyone had 100% poll numbers in the Hall of Fame? Or who was around the highest?
So I kind of understand their impact versus maybe why Maya wasn't in there.
I kind of think somebody like Will Ferrell or like Eddie Murphy,
I seem to remember, or Bill Hader.
I think people like that have been in the 90s. Nobody's gotten 100%.
And it doesn't matter in any sort of Hall of Fame, any sort of vote.
You could be the best basketball, best football player, best baseball player
of all time, and those guys don't get 100%. Nobody's got 100% of the vote in
the SNL Hall of Fame, yeah.
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[53:21] Okay, yeah, that's interesting, man. And I guess those, I think those people
probably have had more impact on the actual show.
But then I look at Will and yes, he had amazing sketches.
When you look back at, let's list everyone's favorite sketches of all time,
you're going to have more cowbells and you're going to have a lot of Will appearances.
But I actually feel like his impact was made more after the show and a lot of the work he's done.
So I'm seeing him a little more similar to Maya than like Bill Hader,
who absolutely like obviously has impact off
of the show but like snl was his playground he
just completely ran that to the ground the
same way that like kate mckinnon has and all of
that like when you're watching them off the show you're always going to relate
them back to being on the show but now you're actually going to look at will
ferrell and you're going to be like oh that's buddy the elf like that's probably
where your mind goes actually more than oh you're on snl it's someone that's
just so engraved in the culture that you're like, oh, I forget you were like,
you don't forget, but oh, you were on SNL instead of Bill Hader.
It's like, oh, SNL's Bill Hader is going to be in this or SNL's Kate McKinnon.
And I think Maya's impacted.
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[54:32] Probably more off the show which is why she's been
teetering around that 50 percent range for a
little bit now but i think people should take that into
consideration because you're not supposed to be
a keenan and be honest enough for a million years not everyone could be that
considering there's only been one person there's only been one keenan on the
show and you want to take this life-changing opportunity and make an impact
in comedy and in pop culture and in the world And I feel like Maya has had such success in that so far.
So take that into consideration when you vote, listeners.
Yeah, no, that's such a good point. I want to use my wife as a case study for what you just said.
She likes SNL. She's not as much of a fan as me. She probably only watches and
started watching because of me.
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[55:21] But she likes it and she'll watch. But she knows Will Ferrell more for like
Elf and things outside of SNL.
She knows Maya Rudolph more, honestly, for popping up in shows that we watch
and seeing her all over the place, probably Bridesmaids.
So my wife is somebody who that
person that you said maybe knows those people more for outside of SNL.
My wife wouldn't know Bill Hader unless she went back and watched earlier seasons.
If she saw Bill Hader popping up on something, she wouldn't be like, oh, it's Bill Hader.
But she sees Maya Rudolph and my wife's like, oh, that's Maya Rudolph. I love Maya Rudolph.
Yeah, exactly. Again, good play. My wife is like, I love that they got Maya
Rudolph to play the judge.
Or in Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, Maya Rudolph played, what, Dionne Warwick?
Who did she play? Yes. Yeah, wait. It wasn't –.
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[56:11] Yeah, and she's just like a standard. Also, I think about Big Mouth.
The second you hear the Hormone Monster, she is hysterical.
And I think Nick Kroll did an awesome job choosing Maya to be such a pivotal
character in that show, obviously.
It's a cartoon, so it's on her face, but she doesn't need to be her face.
So, yeah, she was Dionne Warwick. Dionne Warwick.
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[56:36] Yes. I thought it was that or Diana Ross or somebody like that.
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[56:41] Well, yeah, somebody like that. Yeah, but you could tell like in Big Mouth,
she put her stamp or complete stamp on it.
She, I'm drawing a blank right now.
She popped up recently in something and I was like, oh, Maya was just so perfect
in that. But that's what she does.
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[57:00] Maya just leaves an impression on the screen no matter what.
If it's two minutes, if it's 30 minutes, Maya is going to leave such a great mark.
Oh it was documentary now it's like my my favorite episode
of documentary now is test pattern which
is a take off of their lampooning and
paying uh homage to the talking head stop making
sense and maya's in that on
documentary now and she she was wonderful in
it she was perfect she just makes such an impact rebecca
just no matter how long she's on the screen literally i'm
looking at at like her imdb right now
and she's in literally everything just as
a voice as a name like
whether she just makes a short appearance i'm like
looking at this and i'm like oh wait yeah she was in that she was in specifically
the movie book smart one of my all-time favorite movies she's a voiceover and
i could tell you the scene that she's in in my head because even though it's
just her voice in a non-cartoon movie where there's a lot of big names and a lot of cameos.
I remember the exact part she was in in that movie just by thinking about it
and she's done a lot of cartoons and cartoons.
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[58:16] Comic movies there and yeah she
just makes a lot of appearances in things
and if you look at who is starring in those or producing them it's a lot of
just big name comedians that love her and respect her and i think she's a super
respected name in the comedy scene in the community that people want to hang
out with her and i feel like if she could come back to host for season 50 and And if not,
I feel like she would just be a big presence in whatever sort of celebration
and special that they do for the 50th anniversary.
Yeah, she's going to absolutely be a huge presence. So we can wrap this up by
one last sort of plea, I guess.
And you can look at me, Rebecca, as a stand-in for all those voters who haven't
voted, because I've been on the fence a little bit, maybe more so than I should.
So you can look at me and scold me if you need to and tell me and SNL Hall of
Fame voters out there why they should finally vote Maya Rudolph into the hall.
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[59:17] So I'm going to think about this from a legacy point of view.
And if you were to, if Maya never passed her audition onto SNL,
would your life be changed?
And would pop culture and the world be changed? For sure.
SNL would have been different without her on it. I think she was a pivotal cast
member at the time where maybe she wasn't the star in every sketch,
but her impressions and her quips and one-liners are things that you forever remember.
And then her mark in pop culture and history throughout the years after her being on the show.
She is someone that if she was not at the 50th special, you'd be like, where's Maya?
And I think that alone just would make you want to vote her into the Hall of
Fame because I think she really has made her mark on not only SNL.
And the way that kind of impressions are done from then on into just the real
world. Like, what if Bridesmaids didn't exist?
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[1:00:11] What would we do? We'd be very missing out. That would be a hole in my heart.
So she's someone that I think really made her mark and took her 15 minutes of
fame and really impacted culture and the comedy scene from then on.
So I would vote for her to be in the Hall of Fame. And she's been on the cusp
for five seasons now. And I think that's telling that people really do love her.
Just probably haven't fully mentally appreciated her until this episode.
So vote for Maya for this.
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[1:00:58] Thank you so much, Thomas and Rebecca. That was spectacular.
Re-litigating the case, as Thomas says, of Maya Rudolph.
I, too, am surprised she's not in the Hall of Fame. She wouldn't necessarily be in my Hall of Fame.
But I'm shocked that she's not in. She's got so many votes at this point.
So this is her last chance. This is her last kick at the can.
And you've got to get out and vote for her. May 6th, voting will open,
and it's very important for you to exercise your franchise and make that vote.
So that's what I got to say about that.
Let's listen to a sketch. This is Maya Rudolph on Weekend Update, and it's a dandy.
So let's give that a listen right now.
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[1:01:51] This week, Whitney Houston auctioned off over $175,000 worth of items from her
storage unit in Irvington, New Jersey.
Here to talk about it is Whitney Houston.
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[1:02:06] It's all in the storage unit. Ooh, come on down and buy my junk, baby.
Hello. Hello, Mrs. Houston. Always nice to have you. Oh, feels good, M.E.P.
Unloading, unloading my baggage. Yes. Mama is lighter.
Light as a feather, stiff as a board, M.E.P. Okay, that's wonderful.
That's wonderful, Mrs. Houston. Yes, Polar Coaster. That storage unit has completely slipped my mind.
Open it up. You look like the U-Story from Silence of the Lambs.
Straight up Sanford and Sons. Burn up.
Burn up, burn up, burn up. All right. Okay, so, Whitney, you sold everything. That's great. Oh, no.
Uh-uh. Hail to the, hail to the, hail to the no.
There are still some items that have got to go. And I ain't going to lie,
this legendary recording artist needs the cash. Mama needs Monet.
And for that, you can blame Bobby B.
Total waste of my time, Bobby B. Woo! Okay, Whitney, well. Well.
All right. You all right? You all right? Okay, well tell us what items are left.
Some of our viewers might be interested in helping you out. Oh baby,
you are a genius. Let me put on my cheetahs. Let's see.
Four solid gold turlets. Three complete seasons of 227 on video cassette.
Wind machine, very important.
Track 5
[1:03:35] Eight monogrammed fur capes.
For your lady if her initials are W-H or B-B for Bobby Brown.
600 Kangol visors, a Lexus SUV whose horn honks tenderoni,
a warped platinum record that mama used to heat a DiGiorno pizza,
and a Marvel statuary of Bobby B and I with our business hanging out.
And it's all going once, going twice. Nobody?
No? How many golden toilets? Four!
You know what? I'll give you $15 for everything. So, Jamie Peeping!
All right. Whitney Houston, everybody. Thank you, Whitney. Take it.
Track 2
[1:04:18] Oh, man. Yeah, that's a good one. And I don't know if it's going to sway you or not.
There are some better sketches, there's no doubt.
But it's tough finding sketches for this program
program because so many are visual and
if you think of her Beyonce character for example it's
it's a very visual thing but uh
I I don't know I thought that was great Whitney Houston damn she was so big
at one point wasn't she gosh well next week on the SNL Hall of Fame we are joined
Joined by the grand poobah of the Saturday Night Network, one John Schneider.
He will be in discussion with Thomas about the stellar work of the great Will Forte.
Track 2
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