Career Navigator provides insights to discover and journey God’s path to the best “next” in your career. Job searching can feel chaotic and random in nature if you don’t know where to start. Take the opportunity to slow down and get clear steps on how God has made you with the Career Navigator Podcast.

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2025/12/18/20/6bf619d3-0a72-46a9-8ece-56b6550ac68a_cn_season_2_ep_4.mp3

In this episode, Dr. Chip Roper interviews Nate Frank from ZRG Partners. Nate is a former professional basketball player and the president of executive search for ZRG Partners, one of the fastest growing executive search firms in the world. In this interview, he talks about how he navigated his own career journey, and provides his perspective on how job seekers can differentiate themselves from the competition in the current market.<ul><li><a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/career-navigator" rel="nofollow">Career Navigator Program</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/professional-coaching" rel="nofollow">Professional Coaching</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/give" rel="nofollow">Give to VOCA Center</a></li></ul>

Driving to Work Is a Slam Dunk

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2025/12/11/18/d506b008-e114-4075-9518-a92cfec7c8b1_cn_season_2_ep_3.mp3

In this episode, Ken Kinard, Sarah Evers, and Liz Sastre discuss the VOCA November Job Market Report. These monthly reports are designed to give you perspective on the economy, knowledge of key trends in the job market, and insights for each market segment. You can get your own copy of the report at <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/jobmarketreport" rel="nofollow">https://www.vocacenter.org/jobmarketreport</a>.<ul><li><a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/career-navigator" rel="nofollow">Career Navigator Program</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/professional-coaching" rel="nofollow">Professional Coaching</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/give" rel="nofollow">Give to VOCA Center</a></li></ul>

November Job Market: Freeze & Squeeze

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2025/11/26/19/1d3093f9-b34e-4ccb-b97f-b8d9eaac32ab_cn_season_2_ep_2_gen_z_goes_to_washington.mp3

Welcome to The Career Navigator Podcast. This podcast is for job seekers, career changers, hiring managers, and executives. Listen in as our VOCA team gives you actionable advice for navigating the changing world of work from a biblical perspective.In this episode, Ken Kinard interviews Gabriella about her journey from college graduation to three government job opportunities during the most disruptive period in the Federal Government in recent history.<ul><li><a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/career-navigator" rel="nofollow">Career Navigator Program</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/professional-coaching" rel="nofollow">Professional Coaching</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/give" rel="nofollow">Give to VOCA Center</a></li></ul>

Gen Z Goes to Washington

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2025/11/21/22/c1682b25-98cd-4383-8a55-f0849642fbdc_cn_season_2_ep_1_october_job_market_report.mp3

Welcome to season 2 of The Career Navigator Podcast. This podcast is for job seekers, career changers, hiring managers, and executives. Listen in as our VOCA team gives you actionable advice for navigating the changing world of work from a biblical perspective.In this episode, Ken Kinard, Sarah Evers, and Liz Sastre discuss the VOCA October Job Market Report. These monthly reports are designed to give you perspective on the economy, knowledge of key trends in the job market, and insights for each market segment. You can get your own copy of the report at <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/jobmarketreport" rel="nofollow">https://www.vocacenter.org/jobmarketreport</a>.<ul><li><a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/career-navigator" rel="nofollow">Career Navigator Program</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/professional-coaching" rel="nofollow">Professional Coaching</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/give" rel="nofollow">Give to VOCA Center</a></li></ul>

Season 2 Begins: October Job Market Report

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2025/5/27/22/872a4047-6f89-4eb0-8288-0680e9471a24_cn_14_wanji_walcott_on_the_employment_market.mp3

Over the last 2 years, the number of employment openings in the US has shifted from 3 openings per job seeker to almost 1-to-1. To help you respond well to this shift, Dr. Chip Roper interviewed Wanji Walcott, the Chief Business Legal Affairs Officer and Corporate Secretary at Pinterest. Wanji advocates for learning about AI, finding ways to network collaboratively. Finally, Ken Kinard and Sarah Evers added their perspective on these insights.<ul><li>For help with a job transition, or to explore how we can help with your work, <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/consult" rel="nofollow">schedule a consult</a> with one of our coaches.</li><li>Check out the <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/career-navigator" rel="nofollow">Career Navigator</a> program for help with personal discovery, messaging, and strategies for landing your next.</li><li>Listen to Wanji Walcott on the Resilient Faith at Work Podcast from April 2021: <a href="https://redcircle.com/shows/511ba2d5-5f0f-4c0e-a8f5-f98103f1a5e4/ep/671eec6a-c480-4665-8457-83ed15f8b7d1" rel="nofollow">Future of Inclusion at Work</a></li></ul>

Wanji Walcott on the Employment Market

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2025/4/21/18/cfc46dbc-6124-4274-a6b4-3285a04a95df_cn_13_finding_a_job_later_in_life.mp3

Many job seekers find it challenging to land a job later in life. Whether you have quit your job, got laid off, or are just exploring a change, the experience can feel strange in a world where most people are younger than you. Dr. Chip Roper, Ken Kinard, and Sarah Evers provide insight on landing a job as a seasoned worker.For help with a job transition, or to explore how we can help with your work, <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/consult" rel="nofollow">schedule a consult</a> with one of our coaches.Also, check out the <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/career-navigator" rel="nofollow">Career Navigator</a> program for help with personal discovery, messaging, and strategies for landing your next.

Finding a Job Later in Life

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2025/4/21/18/2d2dcea2-5254-404d-85fe-3c80f51dc7dd_cn_12_re-entering_the_workplace.mp3

Many people who are searching for a job are coming back into the workforce after a long break. You may be coming back from an extended medical leave, a season of caregiving, or even many years of homeschooling. Dr. Chip Roper, Sarah Evers, and Ken Kinard talk about how to align your mind, your message, and your appearance to prepare for successful re-entry.For help with a job transition, or to explore how we can help with your work, <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/consult" rel="nofollow">schedule a consult</a> with one of our coaches.Also, check out the <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/career-navigator" rel="nofollow">Career Navigator</a> program for help with personal discovery, messaging, and strategies for landing your next.

Re-entering the Workforce

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2025/3/27/17/769d35d1-4bde-42a5-a1ae-9319f646bf34_cn_11_dream_job_unavailable.mp3

Dr. Chip Roper, Sarah Evers, and Ken Kinard discuss what to do when your dream job just isn&#39;t an option for you right now. Maybe you are in a &#34;bridge&#34; job—an opportunity that can take you to the job you really want. We mine Joseph&#39;s career for inspiration on how to show up to work when your job really stinks.For help with a job transition, or to explore how we can help with your work, <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/consult" rel="nofollow">schedule a consult</a> with one of our coaches.Also, check out the <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/career-navigator" rel="nofollow">Career Navigator</a> program for help with personal discovery, messaging, and strategies for landing your next.

What to Do When Your Dream Job Isn't Available

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2025/3/27/17/d84b14e8-c03f-41ac-91ce-7ee5fe7a25da_cn_10_bypassing_the_bots.mp3

Dr. Chip Roper, Ken Kinard, and Sarah Evers give practical tips for tailoring your resume to get through Applicant Tracking Systems (ATS) so your application gets considered by hiring managers.For help with a job transition, or to explore how we can help with your work, <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/consult" rel="nofollow">schedule a consult</a> with one of our coaches.Also, check out the <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/career-navigator" rel="nofollow">Career Navigator</a> program for help with personal discovery, messaging, and strategies for landing your next.

Getting Your Resume Through the AI Bots

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2025/3/19/15/da96a8ec-b056-4f0b-94a7-8bec29cda20a_cn_9_help__i_lost_my_job.mp3

Dr. Chip Roper, Sarah Evers, and Ken Kinard discuss the question, &#34;What should you do when you surprisingly lose your job?&#34;For help with a job transition, or to explore how we can help with your work, <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/consult" rel="nofollow">schedule a consult</a> with one of our coaches.Also, check out the <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/career-navigator" rel="nofollow">Career Navigator</a> program for help with personal discovery, messaging, and strategies for getting out there again.

Help! I Lost My Job!

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2025/3/19/15/c27a1c45-5ebd-4169-9b16-cc8473d76925_cn_2025-03_job_insecurity.mp3

Dr. Chip Roper, Ken Kinard, and Sarah Evers discuss the question, &#34;What can you do when you think your job is insecure?&#34;For help with a job transition, or to explore how we can help with your work, <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/consult" rel="nofollow">schedule a consult</a> with one of our coaches.

Job Insecurity: What to do if you think your job is insecure

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2022/9/6/23/9d05055a-fc3f-434d-aaf7-aa6414625e59_cn_what_vacation_says_about_work_2022-09-01.mp3

When you come back from vacation and it&#39;s time to get back to work, how do you feel? The answer often reveals a lot about our jobs — what’s working and what isn’t. Dr. Chip Roper, Ken Kinard, and Sarah Evers discuss the question, &#34;What does my vacation say about my work?&#34;If you have the post-vacation work blues, how can you identify the causes of your discontent, and what are your options for action?In this episode, the VOCA team will shed some biblical wisdom on how to interpret your back-to-work experience and what to do about it.For more information on this topic, see our article <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/post/what-your-vacation-is-telling-you-about-your-job" rel="nofollow">What Your Vacation is Telling You About Your Job</a> on our website <a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/" rel="nofollow">VOCACenter.org</a>.<a href="https://www.vocacenter.org/consult" rel="nofollow">Schedule a consult</a> with one of our coaches.

What Your Vacation Says About Your Job

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2022/4/5/16/87a8908d-6826-416e-82c0-df1da148c942_cn_podcast_09_career_transitions_for_pastors.mp3

This episode begins as Chip discusses job transition for pastors with Dave Wiedis. Dave is the Director of Counseling at Providence Church in West Chester, Pennsylvania and Founder &amp; Executive Director of ServingLeaders Ministries. After this discussion they open up the conversation to a panel of pastors who talk about their personal journeys of job transition.Pastors Panel<ul><li>Chip Roper, <a href="https://vocacenter.org/" rel="nofollow">VOCA Center</a> and <a href="https://www.madetoflourish.org/" rel="nofollow">Made to Flourish</a></li><li>Dave Wiedis, <a href="https://www.servingleaders.org/" rel="nofollow">ServingLeaders</a> </li><li>John Welborn, <a href="https://www.salemchurchnyc.org/" rel="nofollow">Salem Church</a></li><li>John Young, <a href="https://affinitysearchpartners.com/" rel="nofollow">Affinity Search Partners</a> </li><li>Mark Snyder, <a href="https://www.mypv.org/" rel="nofollow">Pleasant View Church</a></li><li>Tracy Troxel, <a href="https://www.stonehillprinceton.org/" rel="nofollow">Stone Hill Church</a></li></ul> The Career Navigator Podcast is brought to you by VOCA Center, where we help you find God’s wisdom for your work. Sign up to join the next live webinar at <a href="https://vocacenter.org/webinar/" rel="nofollow">https://vocacenter.org/webinar/</a>

Career Transitions for Pastors

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2021/7/1/20/a17f5762-60d1-45c6-9c10-d98b0b6d3566__gifts_as_the_secret_to_your_future_2021-03-26.mp3

Chip, Sarah, and Ken welcome Bill Hendricks to the podcast to explain how we can tap into our “giftedness” to feel the joy of work. Bill Hendricks is President of The Giftedness Center, Executive Director for Christian Leadership at The Hendricks Center at Dallas Theological Seminary, and co-host of The Table Podcast on issues of God and culture. He is the author of Your Work Matters to God and The Person Called YOU: Why You’re Here, Why You Matter &amp; What You Should Do With Your Life. Learn how we are designed for work and what it looks like when you tap into your God-given strengths.Handle the challenges of job search and career change with the Career Navigator: vocacenter.org/career-navigator<ul><li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Your-Work-Matters-Doug-Sherman/dp/0891093729" rel="nofollow">Your Work Matters to God</a></li><li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Person-Called-You-Matter-Should/dp/0802412017" rel="nofollow">The Person Called YOU: Why You’re Here, Why You Matter &amp; What You Should Do With Your Life</a></li><li><a href="https://voice.dts.edu/tablepodcast/" rel="nofollow">The Table Podcast</a></li></ul>

Your Gifts as the Secret to Your Future with Bill Hendricks

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2021/7/1/20/94d10a95-c25d-4e9c-91a5-b0599779fb1a_ohn_mccarthy__navigating_on_purpose_2021-03-19.mp3

VOCA invites John McCarthy to talk about navigating the deep issues of identity and purpose work can bring. As the Founder of AGI management and author of The Purpose Promise, John is an entrepreneur out to disrupt the way people look at success. Listen to learn how to work and job search with purpose.Handle the challenges of job search and career change with the Career Navigator: vocacenter.org/career-navigatorThe Purpose Promise: <a href="http://www.purposepromise.org/books" rel="nofollow">www.purposepromise.org/books</a>

Navigating on Purpose with John McCarthy

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2021/8/6/15/4ca83654-1502-4ac0-9452-6178c150b68f_purpose_of_work_during_the_storm_2020-11-05_v2.mp3

Dr. Bryan Dik joins the VOCA team to discuss God’s calling for your life. Dr. Dik has done research to prove that a deep clarity of vocation is a real thing with real benefits. You will hear practical takeaways like creating a personal board of directors, finding your calling, and the 4 C’s of adaptability. Hear how your sense of calling will impact the way you work.Handle the challenges of job search and career change with the Career Navigator: <a href="http://vocacenter.org/career-navigator" rel="nofollow">vocacenter.org/career-navigator</a>

Purpose of Work During the Storm with Bryan Dik

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2021/7/27/21/b9e46e3b-f579-49ce-aa3e-2e709c6da7f7_tt_nevins__rainmaking_using_zoom_2021-03-05_v2.mp3

The team invites Scott Nevins join the podcast to talk about a career requirement - networking. Scott is a serial entrepreneur, CEO, and Principal Wealth Advisor at Bernstein Global Wealth Management. Networking is core to Scott’s business and he’s passionate about helping people do it well. You will hear some of Scott’s best practices and answers to career navigation’s toughest questions.<a href="https://drive.google.com/open?authuser=ken%40vocacenter.com&id=1_Mwynwp8OMNs_Coft6QCfjgweMM1JCIf&usp=drive_fs" rel="nofollow">Scott&#39;s Notes</a> (PDF)Handle the challenges of job search and career change with the Career Navigator: vocacenter.com/career-navigator

Rainmaking Using Zoom with Scott Nevins

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2021/7/27/19/1ebf682c-73b3-4ce3-96c9-492fb7926053_1_team__calling_finding_clarity_2021-04-20-v5.mp3

Join Dr. Chip Roper, President of the VOCA Center, and co-hosts Sarah Evers and Ken Kinard, career coaches and job search experts, with the VOCA Center, as they share best practices of job searching and invite guest speakers to do the same. You will hear stories and tips from executives, authors, church leaders, and more. Discover your next step to work with purpose. Handle the challenges of job search and career change with the Career Navigator: <a href="http://vocacenter.org/career-navigator" rel="nofollow">vocacenter.org/career-navigator</a>

Clarity on Calling

Career Navigator provides insights to discover and journey God’s path to the best “next” in your career. Job searching can feel chaotic and random in nature if you don’t know where to start. Take the opportunity to slow down and get clear steps on how God has made you with the Career Navigator Podcast.