Wise Scientists 2: Ravi & Will Keepin
44m | Sep 11, 2025Philosopher-physicist Ravi Ravindra notes that according to all the sages, there are many levels of reality subtler than the mind. So, any enterprise wholly driven by the mind—including science, philosophy, and theology—cannot connect with these subtler levels of reality. In order to relate with these subtle levels one needs to rely on direct perception, not on thought.
Hence, the need to open up and enhance the quality of perception and being among scientists. Then they are more likely to attain knowledge which is closer to wisdom. A wise scientist is interested in truth - which is a subtle combination of knowledge and compassion.
In this Wise Scientists podcast series, Ravi engages in dialogue with leading scientists about the need for more wisdom in society in general, and specifically among scientists due to its cultural power and influence as well as the speed of current technological developments, for instance in AI.
In this episode he talks with Dr William Keepin, a mathematical physicist with extensive training in contemplative meditation and transpersonal psychology. His research on sustainable energy to mitigate climate change influenced international environmental policy, and he was a whistleblower in nuclear science policy. Will co-founded Gender Equity and Reconciliation International which has conducted 300 trainings in 14 countries on gender equality, and also Satyana Institute which organizes conferences to bring contemplative mystics together across the religions and science. His books include Belonging to God: Science, Spirituality, and a Universal Path of Divine Love (2016), and Gender Equity and Reconciliation: Thirty Years of Healing the Most Ancient Wound in the Human Family (2023).
https://www.eomega.org/workshops/teachers/william-keepin
https://www.permanentpublications.co.uk/william-keepin/
Production: Martin Redfern, Beacon Hill Broadcast Productions
Music: Time Flies by Roman Senyk
