Can Obergefell Be Overturned? Josh Wood (Them Before Us) on Marriage, Parenthood & Child Rights
46m | Jun 4, 2026What if the Supreme Court's 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges decision could be reversed — and why should every Christian and pro-life advocate care? Josh Wood, Executive Director of Them Before Us, joins us to explain why children's rights must be at the center of every marriage and family debate.
In this episode, Josh introduces the Greater Than Campaign — a growing movement to revisit the legal redefinition of marriage and its downstream effects on parenthood, IVF, surrogacy, and donor conception.
You'll discover:
- Why legally redefining marriage led to redefining parenthood
- How the Obergefell v. Hodges ruling opened the door to IVF, surrogacy, and donor conception as legal norms
- What the research says about child outcomes when children are separated from their biological mother and father
- How to engage these issues using reason, evidence, and public policy — not just religious arguments
- What the Greater Than Campaign is doing to protect children's rights at the legal and cultural level
Them Before Us is a global children's rights organization that approaches marriage, family structure, and reproductive technology through the lens of what's best for children — not adult desires. Their work complements the pro-life mission by defending the child's right to know and be raised by their biological parents whenever possible.
📌 Resources Mentioned:
🔗 Them Before Us: Them Before Us
🔗 The Greater Than Campaign: About Us - Greater Than
🔗 Them Before Us on Substack: Them Before Us | Substack
Note: This episode focuses on the child-rights and public-policy implications of marriage, parenthood, IVF, surrogacy, and family structure. Josh Wood speaks from the perspective of Them Before Us, a children's rights organization. Human Life International fully affirms the Catholic Church's teaching that marriage is the lifelong union of one man and one woman ordered toward the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of children. This conversation is intended to explore an additional child-centered and natural-law framework that can help Christians engage these issues in a secular culture.
💬 What do you think? Can Obergefell be overturned — and should it be? Drop your thoughts in the comments.
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