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Rejection is Collateral For The Life You Want | Dr. Marisa Franco | EP 115

54m | Sep 16, 2026

Dr. Marisa G. Franco is a psychologist, professor, and New York Times bestselling author of Platonic. Her new book, Worth, makes a claim that cuts against most confidence advice: telling yourself "I am loved" can leave you feeling worse, not better. Her research traces this to self-verification theory, the idea that we look for proof of what we already believe about ourselves, so praise that doesn't match our own sense of self reads as a threat rather than a gift. In this conversation, she and JBH work through what that means for parenting, friendship, and the pressure to project confidence you don't actually feel, and what it looks like to build worth from the inside instead.

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