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#132: Undermanagement With David Spader And Leigh Quinn, Part 2

41m | Sep 14, 2026

In today's episode of Culture Camp, Jason is joined again by David Spader and Leigh Quinn of Potentia, and they continue their discussion on why leaders undermanage—not from lack of intent, but from motivations, emotional patterns, and capabilities. They explain how relational styles often avoid accountability conversations, how adaptability, “firm flexibility,” and emotional self-awareness impact management, and why leaders must distinguish between solving and resolving problems with their teams. They also highlight the danger of hiding behind processes instead of actually managing people, and emphasize assessments and ongoing practice as keys to growth.


Tweetable Quotes:


"Some of us are more interested in managing and some are less interested in managing." - David Spader


"Transferable competencies determine whether you succeed once you're promoted." - Leigh Quinn



Connect with David Spader and Lee Quinn:


On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/potentia-david-spader-5627655/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/leigh-quinn-jr-a017oa69/


Visit Potentia-assesments.com: https://potentia-assessments.com/



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