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#434 Austin Petersen - Former Presidential Candidate Admits "I Was Wrong About Trump"

1h 0m | Sep 25, 2026

Zuby is joined by former Libertarian presidential candidate and host of 'Wake Up America', Austin Petersen. Austin opens up about the things he got badly wrong, from Donald Trump to drug legalisation, and why he was booed on a Libertarian debate stage for saying it should be illegal to sell heroin to children. The conversation covers audience capture, why big podcasters rarely change their minds, and how fatherhood reshapes one's politics. Zuby and Austin also discuss the cultural aspects of liberty, why the Gulf states may be the most economically libertarian countries, and if the American Dream is still achievable for most.

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction

(04:38) What he got wrong about Trump

(05:24) Rethinking immigration and tariffs

(06:55) Booed for opposing heroin sales to kids

(07:24) Why drug legalisation went wrong

(10:30) Audience capture and the cost of integrity

(12:21) How fatherhood changed his politics

(13:43) Guns, safety and who gets the final say

(17:10) Fewer parents is changing politics

(19:30) Liberty needs a culture of liberty

(21:22) The Argentina lesson

(25:20) Why you can't copy another country's politics

(29:01) The Gulf's zero income tax model

(34:05) Is the American dream still achievable?

(35:28) AI is killing entry-level jobs

(38:41) Boomers, housing and the generational squeeze

(41:57) Two incomes and the daycare trap

(46:19) Why homes now cost 11x salaries

(48:06) America's individualism problem

(53:27) Stop looking to government for every solution

(55:32) The generational smoking ban

(01:01:07) Where to find Austin online




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