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"The Weapon Was a Baby" | Prof. Farid Esack on Palestine and South Africa (Part 3)

1h 19m | Oct 7, 2026

"They charged her with assault of a soldier, and the weapon was a baby."


In the closing sitting of this series, Shaykh Irshaad Sedick and Professor Farid Esack turn to Palestine, the struggle that South African Muslims have long carried as their own.


We begin with the open letter to the people of Palestine that Prof. Esack wrote, painted along the separation wall near Ramallah. Then: why every comparison with apartheid now makes him squirm; his first visit after the first intifada, and the stone he picked up from the rubble; what South Africa's case at the International Court of Justice achieves; the campaign that ended UJ's ties with Ben-Gurion University; why some ulama stay silent; the weak hadith of the "greater jihad"; and the lessons he wants the next generation to carry. Freedom isn't free: every generation has to win it again.


CHAPTERS

0:00 Cold open

1:01 Introduction

1:56 The letter on the wall

5:29 Why the word apartheid makes him squirm

9:45 How Palestine found him

16:20 At what cost? Cancelled in Hamburg

19:36 Why South Africa took Israel to the ICJ

26:40 Is the ICJ case worth it?

32:09 Tutu, and the apartheid comparison

38:18 Campaigns: BDS and UJ's break with Ben-Gurion

47:27 Why are some ulama silent on Palestine?

57:54 The weak hadith of the greater jihad

1:01:55 Humanitarian or religious?

1:05:22 Lessons for the struggle ahead

1:14:27 Free to be Muslim in South Africa

1:17:57 Freedom isn't free

1:19:15 Close


THE SERIES

Part 1, A Child of the Jamaat: https://youtu.be/yUwcDETGtqA

Part 2, The Janaza That Shook Cape Town: https://youtu.be/GXqgARV-xTU

Watch Part 3 on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Ruh2BcWjR0g


SOURCES ON SCREEN

Letter footage: Sallie Shawl, November 2010. Desmond Tutu, "Apartheid in the Holy Land", April 2002. Hadith of the greater jihad: al-Bayhaqi, al-Zuhd al-Kabir no. 373, with a weak chain; al-Iraqi, al-Mughni 2:709. Ibn al-Qayyim, Madarij al-Salikin 3:226. Qur'an text: quran.com.


ABOUT THE GUEST

Professor Farid Esack is a South African scholar of Islam and a veteran of the anti-apartheid struggle. He served on the leadership of the Muslim Judicial Council and the Call of Islam, taught at leading universities including Harvard, headed Religion Studies at the University of Johannesburg, and in 2018 received the Order of Luthuli in Silver.


ABOUT THE HOST

Shaykh Irshaad Sedick is a Cape Town based Islamic scholar in the Shafi'i school, a hadith specialist, and the founder of Isnad Academy. He teaches full time with SeekersGuidance.


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