Welcome to Open Late, a deep dive into all things relationships. Let’s explore the multi-faceted, frequently misunderstood, dynamics of polyamory and what being “open” even means.  Each week you’ll hear all about my personal journey with Opening Up, and uncovering the deep, complicated, and occasionally kinky layers of our hearts as expressed in the ways we love others and ourselves. If you&#39;re interested in discovering how your relationships can be a vehicle for self-discovery and growth, or maybe just looking for new ways to spice up your life, then you&#39;ve come to the right place.

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Your partner is not your superhero. That is a controversial and also very popular statement. There is so much pressure to find “The One.” We’ve been taught it from a young age, we’ve seen it in movies, lost sleep over thinking about it. But here’s the thing, you can lose yourself after you find the one because you made them your everything. It’s time to think outside of the programming and explore a relationship style that truly works best. I’m not saying being in an open relationship is the end-all-be-all, but taking the time for exploration into what you really want is so important. Having a sense of independence while sharing a common vision with your partner is really the key to personal and relationship fulfillment. After all, have you ever seen a superhero that isn’t stressed out?Whether you’re in an open relationship, monogamous, or in a committed relationship with yourself, you’re going to want to listen in. In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>Why your partner is not your hero </li><li>Generations evolve, so why don’t our relationships?</li><li>Twin flames, soul mates, and cosmic lovers</li><li>What happens when you make your partner your everything</li></ul> Resources:<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/3-your-partner-is-not-your-superhero-compersion-explained/id1587979583?i=1000538440589" rel="nofollow">Open Late Episode 3 with Chloe Francke</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/17-connecting-sexuality-and-spirituality-with/id1587979583?i=1000547694766" rel="nofollow">Open Late Episode 17 with Lauren Urbiztondo</a>Esther Perel <a href="https://www.estherperel.com/books" rel="nofollow">Books</a> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatepodcast.com</a> | <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

Your partner is not your superhero. That is a controversial and also very popular statement. There is so much pressure to find “The One.” We’ve been taught it from a young age, we’ve seen it in movies, lost sleep over thinking about it. But here’s the thing, you can lose yourself after you find the one because you made them your everything. It’s time to think outside of the programming and explore a relationship style that truly works best. I’m not saying being in an open relationship is the end-all-be-all, but taking the time for exploration into what you really want is so important. Having a sense of independence while sharing a common vision with your partner is really the key to personal and relationship fulfillment. After all, have you ever seen a superhero that isn’t stressed out?

Whether you’re in an open relationship, monogamous, or in a committed relationship with yourself, you’re going to want to listen in.

18. SOLO | The Danger of “The One”

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In this extra juicy episode, Jessica and Deborah open up about the connection that sex and spirituality has always had and the the depths it can really go.Deborah Kagan is a Speaker, Author, Mentor and Mojo Recovery Specialist, supporting you to conquer self-doubt and indecision to step into your full power and live a turned on life. She is the creator of Rock Your Mojo programs, and the author of Find Your Me Spot: 52 Ways to Reclaim Your Confidence, Feel Good in Your Own Skin and Live a Turned on Life. Deborah is also the host of The Real Undressed Podcast.  In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>P*ssy Power Posse: Deborah’s call to work with women</li><li>Breaking the cycle of calling in the same destructive patterns </li><li>Dancing between masculine and feminine energy</li><li>Seeing God through orgasm and reclaiming sex and spirit</li></ul> Follow Deborah<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deborahkagan/" rel="nofollow">@deborahkagan</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://www.deborah-kagan.com/" rel="nofollow">deborah-kagan.com</a></li><li>Podcast: <a href="https://therealundressed.com/" rel="nofollow">The Real Undressed</a></li></ul> Connect with Jessica<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatethepodcast.com</a> | <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> Check out Jessica on Deborah’s <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/186-jessica-esfandiary-open-relationship-embracing/id1494643770?i=1000543848216" rel="nofollow">Podcast</a> Get the <a href="https://openlatepodcast.us20.list-manage.com/subscribe?id=0efab019e6&u=6f3d85af728291974be68a270" rel="nofollow">Open Late Dictionary</a> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

In this extra juicy episode, Jessica and Deborah open up about the connection that sex and spirituality has always had and the the depths it can really go.

Deborah Kagan is a Speaker, Author, Mentor and Mojo Recovery Specialist, supporting you to conquer self-doubt and indecision to step into your full power and live a turned on life. She is the creator of Rock Your Mojo programs, and the author of Find Your Me Spot: 52 Ways to Reclaim Your Confidence, Feel Good in Your Own Skin and Live a Turned on Life. Deborah is also the host of The Real Undressed Podcast.

17. Connecting Sexuality and Spirituality with Deborah Kagan

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Lauren Urbiztondo is a creative entrepreneur who specializes in photography, life coaching, sound facilitating, and women&#39;s retreats. She loves to spread love and compassion through her work. Lauren and Jessica have created a beautiful business together that include retreats and sound meditation journeys. In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>How to become a throuple</li><li>Falling in love with your husband’s girlfriend</li><li>Navigating changes in relationship</li><li>Ending the relationship with a third</li><li>Maintaining friendship after the breakup</li></ul> Follow Lauren:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lolo_urbiztondo/" rel="nofollow">@lolo_urbiztondo</a></li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatethepodcast.com</a> | <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> Get the <a href="https://openlatepodcast.us20.list-manage.com/subscribe?id=0efab019e6&u=6f3d85af728291974be68a270" rel="nofollow">Open Late Dictionary</a> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

Lauren Urbiztondo is a creative entrepreneur who specializes in photography, life coaching, sound facilitating, and women's retreats. She loves to spread love and compassion through her work. Lauren and Jessica have created a beautiful business together that include retreats and sound meditation journeys.

16. Room for Three: Meeting My Other Love with Lauren Urbiztondo

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- TRIGGER WARNING -*Topics discussed in this episode involve sexual violence and may be sensitive to some listeners*The Goddess herself, Ginger banks is back on Open Late to talk to Jess about her crazy catfish story and how she is working to destigmatize and heal trauma surrounding sex work. In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>First time being Catfished</li><li>Diving into TikTok and OnlyFans</li><li>The consequences stigmatizing sex workers and sexuality</li><li>Creating a therapeutic space for sex workers</li><li>Healing trauma and addressing how it starts</li></ul> Follow Ginger:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thegingerbanks/" rel="nofollow">@thegingerbanks</a></li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatethepodcast.com</a> | <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> BBC’s <a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0b3d24r" rel="nofollow">The Fall of a Porn Icon</a>Get the <a href="https://openlatepodcast.us20.list-manage.com/subscribe?id=0efab019e6&u=6f3d85af728291974be68a270" rel="nofollow">Open Late Dictionary</a> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

- TRIGGER WARNING -

*Topics discussed in this episode involve sexual violence and may be sensitive to some listeners*

The Goddess herself, Ginger banks is back on Open Late to talk to Jess about her crazy catfish story and how she is working to destigmatize and heal trauma surrounding sex work.

15. Getting Catfished, Scary Experiences, and Healing From Trauma with Ginger Banks

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Lea Fisher emerged from a traumatic childhood to become a multi-awarded reflectionist artist. With a master&#39;s in counseling, she guides her audience to unlock their creative capacity and design a life of holistic wellness. She holds space for shame reducing conversations while promoting radical self-acceptance through honest dialogue. As a healing curator, Lea also provides her audience with the raw materials they need to activate their self healing. This was a powerful conversation around the journey of marriage and divorce, navigating societal views on relationships, and working through the emotional trauma. In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>What NOT to do in an open marriage</li><li>Things to know before opening up</li><li>Breaking patriarchal programming: Being married does not mean being owned</li><li>Identifying and breaking through the spiral of sexual shame</li><li>Using art to heal relationship with self</li></ul> Follow Lea:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/leafisherart/?hl=en" rel="nofollow">@leafisherart</a></li><li>Website &amp; Art: <a href="https://www.leafisherart.com/artwork1" rel="nofollow">leafisherart.com</a></li><li>See Lea’s work: <a href="http://www.samuellynne.com/" rel="nofollow">www.samuellynne.com</a></li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatethepodcast.com</a> | <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> Book mentioned:<a href="https://www.amazon.com/You-Were-Not-Born-Suffer/dp/1780289855" rel="nofollow">You Were Not Born to Suffer</a><a href="https://www.gaia.com/" rel="nofollow">Gaia TV</a><a href="https://tobemagnetic.com/" rel="nofollow">To Be Magnetic</a> Get the <a href="https://openlatepodcast.us20.list-manage.com/subscribe?id=0efab019e6&u=6f3d85af728291974be68a270" rel="nofollow">Open Late Dictionary</a> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

Lea Fisher emerged from a traumatic childhood to become a multi-awarded reflectionist artist. With a master's in counseling, she guides her audience to unlock their creative capacity and design a life of holistic wellness. She holds space for shame reducing conversations while promoting radical self-acceptance through honest dialogue. As a healing curator, Lea also provides her audience with the raw materials they need to activate their self healing.

This was a powerful conversation around the journey of marriage and divorce, navigating societal views on relationships, and working through the emotional trauma.

14. The Art of: Healing, Trauma, and Divorce with Lea Fisher

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Jess met Madison Girifalco at Burning Man. She&#39;s an immersive installation artist, a puppet fabricator and children&#39;s book author. It&#39;s her goal to help facilitate space for creative communities and individual independence through the immersive arts and storytelling.This episode goes into how important language is to how we communicate with each other and how we navigate the world. In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>Bisexual, Queer, and learning about labels</li><li>How language guides culture around the world</li><li>The challenges of effectively communicating with your partner</li><li>The patriarchal influence on language</li><li>All about the new OPEN LATE Dictionary</li></ul> Follow Madison:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mindovermadison/" rel="nofollow">@mindovermadison</a></li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatethepodcast.com</a> | <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> Resources:<a href="https://objects-us-east-1.dream.io/intimacy-inventory/intimacyinventory.pdf" rel="nofollow">Esther Perel&#39;s Intimacy Inventory Quiz</a><a href="https://www.facebook.com/MatthewMcConaughey/videos/pickle-expert/6923931260953897/" rel="nofollow">Matthew McConaughey Pickle Expert</a><a href="https://www.google.com/search?aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i512l3.8031j0j7&ie=UTF-812%2F15%2F2021&oq=lera+boroditsky+ted&q=lera+boroditsky+ted+talk&sourceid=chrome" rel="nofollow">Lea Boroditsky Ted Talk </a> Get the <a href="https://openlatepodcast.us20.list-manage.com/subscribe?id=0efab019e6&u=6f3d85af728291974be68a270" rel="nofollow">Open Late Dictionary</a> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

Jess met Madison Girifalco at Burning Man. She's an immersive installation artist, a puppet fabricator and children's book author. It's her goal to help facilitate space for creative communities and individual independence through the immersive arts and storytelling.

This episode goes into how important language is to how we communicate with each other and how we navigate the world.

13. Communication and Clarity: The Importance of Language with Madison Girifalco

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There are so many things to explore when diving into modern day relationships, but how are we supposed to communicate about these things if we don’t know the words to use. This episode will help you understand what all the terminology really means. In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>When you want to try something new in your relationship</li><li>Learning the language of desire</li><li>Introducing the OPEN LATE Dictionary</li><li>The OPEN LATE community</li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatethepodcast.com</a> | <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> Get the <a href="https://openlatepodcast.us20.list-manage.com/subscribe?id=0efab019e6&u=6f3d85af728291974be68a270" rel="nofollow">Open Late Dictionary</a> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

There are so many things to explore when diving into modern day relationships, but how are we supposed to communicate about these things if we don’t know the words to use. This episode will help you understand what all the terminology really means.

12. [Bonus] The Open Late Dictionary launch

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Get ready for this bonus episode, it’s both hysterical and answers some of the most burning questions Jessica and Pasha get about their open marriage. Kurt Maloney did some stand up comedy back at the OPEN LATE Launch party and then moderated a LIVE Q&amp;A. It’s too good not to share. In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>Kurt’s Stand Up</li><li>Why Jess started the Podcast</li><li>Working through jealousy and insecurity</li><li>Having kids in an open marriage</li><li>Balancing desire for multiple partners</li></ul> Follow Pasha:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pashaesfandiary/" rel="nofollow">@pashaesfandiary</a></li></ul> Follow Kurt:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kurtmaloney/" rel="nofollow">@kurtmaloney</a></li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatethepodcast.com</a> | <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

Get ready for this bonus episode, it’s both hysterical and answers some of the most burning questions Jessica and Pasha get about their open marriage. Kurt Maloney did some stand up comedy back at the OPEN LATE Launch party and then moderated a LIVE Q&A. It’s too good not to share.

11. [Bonus] Live Q&A from the Open Late Launch Party Moderated by Kurt Maloney

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Steve Cha, one of Jess’ best friends is back on the show today. Some of the audio was lost for the last episode with him, so they got together on IG live to talk more. There was so much amazing feedback on it and they wanted to share it here. This conversation turned to their history as friends and gives a real glimpse at Jess’ life before Pasha. In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>How sexual repression manifests in dark ways</li><li>Unpacking the ending of a toxic relationship</li><li>Almost losing the love of your life</li><li>Normalizing challenging conversations</li><li>Creating non-sexual intimate relationships</li></ul> Follow Steve:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/estebanchampion/" rel="nofollow">@estebanchampion</a></li><li>Website: <a href="http://empowerthebarrios.org/" rel="nofollow">Empowerthebarrios.org</a></li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatethepodcast.com</a> | <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> Check out Afrotrace Music:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/afrotrace/" rel="nofollow">@afrotrace</a></li><li>Soundcloud: <a href="https://soundcloud.com/afrotrace/sets/fr-tr-c-mix-s?c=1&p=i&ref=clipboard&si=55857964463D4D1282D0F4C55E13B40C&utm_campaign=social_sharing&utm_medium=text&utm_source=clipboard" rel="nofollow">Aftrotrace</a></li></ul> <img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nbn6Ohd0nFqir4grAi1_b0-5f4GtTQqW7DYL5KSuAfo4C6k4UD8GfUvF0emYYX7cdwW-Hz0LSdAlC1KXr4_736FKaAI-x6put1Xd-9hjHBqaI00iz99HSOSkYsSzFbJamDPzvZ_g" height="416" width="624"> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

Steve Cha, one of Jess’ best friends is back on the show today. Some of the audio was lost for the last episode with him, so they got together on IG live to talk more. There was so much amazing feedback on it and they wanted to share it here. This conversation turned to their history as friends and gives a real glimpse at Jess’ life before Pasha.

10. [Bonus] Life Before the Open Marriage: Live Q+A with Steve Cha

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Bianca Taylor is an entrepreneur and coach who specializes in women’s confidence. She has co-founded multiple successful companies and advocates for women to break out of the box and explore their multi-faceted nature. In this episode, Bianca asks Jess questions about what to do when problems come up in a relationship, when is the right time to close, and dealing with toxic energy.  In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>When is the right time to close the relationship</li><li>Somewhere between monogamy and poly</li><li>Getting relationship coaching</li><li>How to identify what causes problems in the relationship</li><li>Dealing with unwanted attention and toxic energy</li></ul> Follow Bianca:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/biancataylorm/" rel="nofollow">@biancataylorm</a></li><li>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/Biancataylorm" rel="nofollow">@biancataylorm</a></li><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/biancataylorfit" rel="nofollow">Bianca Taylor</a></li><li>Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/badassbabe-radio/id1440129107" rel="nofollow">Badassbabe Radio</a></li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatethepodcast.com</a> | <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

Bianca Taylor is an entrepreneur and coach who specializes in women’s confidence. She has co-founded multiple successful companies and advocates for women to break out of the box and explore their multi-faceted nature. In this episode, Bianca asks Jess questions about what to do when problems come up in a relationship, when is the right time to close, and dealing with toxic energy.

9. When to Close the Relationship with Bianca Taylor

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We talk a lot about what it’s like having an open relationship but what if you are single and want to try out this lifestyle? In this episode, Jess’ friend Kurt Maloney opens up about his experience trying things out as someone who is single, diving into the world of poly and ethical non-monogamy. In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>Opening to Ayahuasca</li><li>The ups and downs of using apps to meet people</li><li>Dating as a throuple</li><li>Navigating judgment from family and society</li><li>What happens when non-monogamy is not ethical</li></ul> Follow Kurt:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kurtmaloney/" rel="nofollow">@kurtmaloney</a></li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatethepodcast.com</a> | <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

We talk a lot about what it’s like having an open relationship but what if you are single and want to try out this lifestyle?. In this episode, Jess’ friend Kurt Maloney opens up about his experience trying things out as someone who is single, diving into the world of poly and ethical non-monogamy.

8. When a Single Guy Tries out Ethical Non-Monogamy with Kurt Maloney

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Julie Comeau is a yoga teacher and meditation practitioner who empowers others to discover themselves through natural living. Daniela Tudor is a DJ, Producer, and CEO/Co-founder of ​​WEconnect Health Management.This conversation dives into the differences in building connection, trust, and romance in an open relationship vs a monogamous relationship. The three also break down the myths and misconceptions placed on men and women around non-monogamy and sexuality as a whole. In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>Breaking down judgment and desire</li><li>The differences in how sexuality and ethical non-monogamy are viewed for men and women</li><li>Romance and communication in open relationships</li><li>Traditional communities and raising children</li><li>Incorporating variety and consistency into long term relationships</li></ul> Follow Daniela and Julie:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/danielaluzit/" rel="nofollow">@danielaluzit</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/iamjuliecomeau/" rel="nofollow">@iamjuliecomeau</a></li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatethepodcast.com</a> | <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab0ydqMUlNU" rel="nofollow">Cynthia Nixon: Be a Lady They Said</a> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

Julie Comeau is a yoga teacher and meditation practitioner who empowers others to discover themselves through natural living. Daniela Tudor is a DJ, Producer, and CEO/Co-founder of ​​WEconnect Health Management.

This conversation dives into the differences in building connection, trust, and romance in an open relationship vs a monogamous relationship. The three also break down the myths and misconceptions placed on men and women around non-monogamy and sexuality as a whole.

7. The Game of Polyamory: Men vs. Women with Daniela Tudor and Julie Comeau

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In this special episode, Jessica gets put in the hot seat with her husband Pasha. They unpack what it’s like going from insecurities and being unfilled to having a strong, trusting open marriage. Pasha has the chance to ask questions he’s never asked and talk about the reality of choosing non-monogamy, even the not so pretty parts of it. In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>How non-monogamy can be incredibly healing </li><li>What it’s like going from an open relationship back to monogamy</li><li>The challenging side to open relationships</li><li>Addressing the stigma of non-monogamy</li><li>Being in an open marriage and having kids</li></ul> Follow Pasha:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pashaesfandiary/" rel="nofollow">@pashaesfandiary</a></li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a> | <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatepodcast.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

In this special episode, Jessica gets put in the hot seat with her husband Pasha. They unpack what it’s like going from insecurities and being unfilled to having a strong, trusting open marriage. Pasha has the chance to ask questions he’s never asked and talk about the reality of choosing non-monogamy, even the not so pretty parts of it.

6. Lessons and Struggles of an Open Relationship with Pasha Esfandiary

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Kelli is a Podcaster, women’s circle facilitator, plant medicine advocate, and total badass. In this raw episode, Kelli and Jessica open up about the unexpected healing through intimacy that can happen when we open ourselves up to the sexual exploration we’ve always desired. In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>Learning to be open to breaking the rules</li><li>The intimacy we didn’t know we wanted</li><li>The connection between sexuality and personal development</li><li>When NOT to be open</li><li>The power of plant medicine</li></ul> Follow Kelli:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kellitmoore/" rel="nofollow">@kellitmoore</a></li><li>Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ba/podcast/the-kelli-show/id1410824985" rel="nofollow">The Kelli Show</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ba/podcast/ok-babe/id1497534094" rel="nofollow">OK, Babe</a></li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a> | <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatepodcast.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

Kelli is a Podcaster, women’s circle facilitator, plant medicine advocate, and total badass. In this raw episode, Kelli and Jessica open up about the unexpected healing through intimacy that can happen when we open ourselves up to the sexual exploration we’ve always desired.

5. Opening to Intimacy, Connection, and Plant Medicine with Kelli Moore

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Steve Cha is one of Jessica’s best friends and has absolutely no filter, so get ready for some off the rails questions around open relationships, orgies, and upholding boundaries. In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>Creating intimacy in threesomes</li><li>Sex parties and Burning Man</li><li>Creating boundaries for more freedom</li><li>Identifying blind spots in relationships</li></ul> Follow Steve:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/estebanchampion/" rel="nofollow">@estebanchampion</a></li><li>Website: <a href="http://empowerthebarrios.org/" rel="nofollow">Empowerthebarrios.org</a></li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a> | <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatepodcast.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

Steve Cha is one of Jessica’s best friends and has absolutely no filter, so get ready for some off the rails questions around open relationships, orgies, and upholding boundaries.

4. Testing Boundaries and Leaning into Desire with Steve Cha

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In this beautiful conversation about jealousy, Jessica and Chloe get into what compersion means and how the idea can be used to create a powerfully connected relationship. Putting the ego aside for your partner’s happiness and exploring unconditional love with understanding and support takes away the pressure in relationships and allows for the breathing room for it to flow. In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>Creating the foundation for confronting conversations</li><li>Working through and releasing jealousy in a relationship</li><li>Communicating your needs and designing your own relationship</li><li>Learning to be happy in your partner’s happiness</li></ul> Follow Chloe:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/prettybitches_bychloe/" rel="nofollow">@prettybitches_bychloe</a></li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/openlatethepodcast/" rel="nofollow">@openlatethepodcast</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a> | <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatepodcast.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

In this beautiful conversation about jealousy, Jessica and Chloe get into what compersion means and how the idea can be used to create a powerfully connected relationship. Putting the ego aside for your partner’s happiness and exploring unconditional love with understanding and support takes away the pressure in relationships and allows for the breathing room for it to flow.

3. Your Partner is NOT Your Superhero & Compersion Explained with Chloe Francke

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In this episode, Jessica discusses what happened after deciding to continue down the open road. Marialuisa Ferro is a life coach specializing in authentic confidence and women’s empowerment. She works with women and non-binary folk to break limiting beliefs around romantic relationships, careers, and lifestyle so that they are ready for the life they deserve. Marialuisa is also the Director of Programs at a non-profit and works with women in leadership positions.  In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>The process of opening a monogamous relationship</li><li>Breaking the stigma and explaining monogamish</li><li>1000 person sex parties</li><li>Creating newness in a relationship of familiarity</li></ul> Follow Marialouisa:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/marialuisaferro_/" rel="nofollow">@marialuisaferro_</a></li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a> | <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatepodcast.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> Take the <a href="https://s.surveyanyplace.com/eroticblueprint%20" rel="nofollow">Erotic Blueprint Quiz</a> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

In this episode, Jessica discusses what happened after deciding to continue down the open road. Marialuisa Ferro is a life coach specializing in authentic confidence and women’s empowerment. She works with women and non-binary folk to break limiting beliefs around romantic relationships, careers, and lifestyle so that they are ready for the life they deserve. Marialuisa is also the Director of Programs at a non-profit and works with women in leadership positions.

2. The Aftermath of the Accidental Threesome with Marialuisa Ferro

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In this inaugural episode, Jessica and Ginger go through exactly what went down in the accidental threesome that forever changed this monogamous couple. Ginger is an advocate for sex workers and the sexual empowerment of all people. Through her questioning of all things related to the sexual status quo, she stumbled upon ethical non-monogamy and has spent the past four years educating herself on the topic.  In this episode of OPEN LATE:<ul><li>Open relationships and being monogamish</li><li>Organic threesome experiences</li><li>New Year’s Eve make-outs and the hottest cab rides </li><li>How polyamory leads to incredible connections</li><li>The deeper side of sex parties and BDSM</li></ul> Follow Ginger:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thegingerbanks/" rel="nofollow">@thegingerbanks</a></li></ul> Connect Jessica:<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/journey.with.jessica/" rel="nofollow">@journey.with.jessica</a></li><li>Website: <a href="https://jessicaesfandiary.com/" rel="nofollow">jessicaesfandiary.com</a> | <a href="https://www.openlatepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">openlatepodcast.com</a></li><li>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUSp39JYLZ-pZp-89pCYog" rel="nofollow">Open Late Podcast</a></li></ul> This show is produced by <a href="http://soulfireproductionsco.com/" rel="nofollow">Soulfire Productions</a>

In this inaugural episode, Jessica and Ginger go through exactly what went down in the accidental threesome that forever changed this monogamous couple. Ginger is an advocate for sex workers and the sexual empowerment of all people. Through her questioning of all things related to the sexual status quo, she stumbled upon ethical non-monogamy and has spent the past four years educating herself on the topic.

1. The Accidental Threesome with Ginger Banks

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Welcome to Open Late, a deep dive into all things relationships. Let’s explore the multi-faceted, frequently misunderstood, dynamics of polyamory and what being “open” even means.  Each week you’ll hear all about my personal journey with Opening Up, and uncovering the deep, complicated, and occasionally kinky layers of our hearts as expressed in the ways we love others and ourselves. If you're interested in discovering how your relationships can be a vehicle for self-discovery and growth, or maybe just looking for new ways to spice up your life, then you've come to the right place.

Open Late

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